Finding Work Done by Compressing A Spring

AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating the work done in compressing a spring in a physics lab experiment involving a spring-loaded cannon and a pendulum. The key equation for potential energy stored in the spring is (1/2)kx^2, but the user struggles with unknown variables k (spring constant) and x (compression distance). They initially apply the conservation of energy principle, equating potential energy to kinetic energy, but their calculated work of 0.0246 J seems too low. Another participant suggests that the user may have made a calculation error, especially if using a heavier projectile, as their own calculation for a 10g marble yielded 0.125 J. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly identifying all variables in energy calculations.
rk21619
Messages
2
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


I did a lab today in Physics in which we launched ball from a spring loaded cannon directly into a pendulum that captured the ball, held it, and swung upwards with it (representing a totally inelastic collision). One question that confuses me:

> How much work did you do in joules in compressing the spring of the spring gun for the long-range case? Which law of conservation is your answer based upon?

Some additional information: the long-range case is where we fired the ball at it's maximum speed (which I've calculated to be 4.79 m/s^2.

Homework Equations


E = K + U = 0
initial momentum = final momentum
m(v_initial) = (m + M)(v_final)
K = (1/2)(m + M)v^2
U = (1/2)kx^2 [for the spring]

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm guessing the law of conservation to use here is for that of energy, in which K + U = 0, where K is kinetic and U is final energy. The system has all potential energy (no kinetic) when the spring is compressed, which is known as (1/2)kx^2, but I don't know k...

If any other information is needed, let me know. Thanks for the help!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The potential energy stored in the spring is there because you put it into it. That's the work you did.
 
luitzen said:
The potential energy stored in the spring is there because you put it into it. That's the work you did.

Yes, well, this means 2 things to me:

That the answer is (1/2)kx^2, because that's the energy I put into it (which I can't find - I don't know k, and I also don't know how far the spring got compressed [aka x]).

Or, we use the law of conservation of energy so that:
K + U = 0
K_f - K_i + U_f - U_i = 0 [there is no initial kinetic energy or final potential, so...]
U_i = K_f
So, the work I did is equal to K_f, which is (1/2)mv^2.

I did out this calculation and got some ridiculous number .0246 J... I definitely did more work than that, so I'm still so confused.
 
The method is correct. I don't know how heavy that ball is, but when I run the calculation for a 10g marble with a final speed of 5 m/s I get 0.125J. So unless you are using something lighter and/or moving slower, you'll probably have made a mistake in the calculation.
 
Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
TL;DR Summary: I came across this question from a Sri Lankan A-level textbook. Question - An ice cube with a length of 10 cm is immersed in water at 0 °C. An observer observes the ice cube from the water, and it seems to be 7.75 cm long. If the refractive index of water is 4/3, find the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. I could not understand how the apparent height of the ice cube in the water depends on the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. Does anyone have an...
Back
Top