Fluid and depth of hole problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a fluid dynamics problem involving water flowing from a hole in a tank. The user seeks assistance with three parts: determining the distance the water stream strikes the floor, finding the depth for a second hole to achieve the same distance, and maximizing that distance. They have applied Bernoulli's equation and projectile motion principles but are struggling with parts b and c. Additionally, they introduce a related question about a physical pendulum, asking if similar methods can be used to find the least period of oscillation. The conversation highlights the application of physics equations and the need for clarification on the quadratic formula in the context of fluid dynamics.
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hey guys I'm kinda new to this forum and was wondering if you could help me on this fluid question i was having;

Fig. 15-47 shows a stream of water flowing through a hole at depth h = 17 cm in a tank holding water to height H = 43 cm. (a) At what distance x does the stream strike the floor? (b) At what depth should a second hole be made to give the same value of x? (c) At what depth should a hole be made to maximize x?

http://edugen.wiley.com/edugen/courses/crs1141/art/qb/qu/c15/Fig14_48.gif
i don't know if u guys are going to get the picture but its just a can with a height of H and a hole on its right side with the distance h from the top, and the water spills a distance of x away from the can


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well i tried to use bernoulli's equation for part a, but am stuck on part b and c


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well i used a combination of bernoulli's equation, liquid continuity equation and also simple projectile motion to find that th water falls 0.42 metres away from the can, but really have no clue what to do for part b and c...if u guys can help it would be really awsome
 
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\rho g h=\frac{1}{2}\rho v^2

v=\sqrt{2gh}

H-h=\frac{1}{2}gt^2

x=vt=\sqrt{2gh}\sqrt{\frac{2(H-h)}{g}}

x^2=4hH-4h^2

As you can see that we have quadratic equation which has two values of h.

for max x you need to just differentiate x to get h

\frac{dx}{dh}=0
 
thanks...i didn't understand how you got the quadratic formula part, but i knew how to do c...just u kinda needed b to do c=P thanks again
 
What I did is just

(x)^2=\left(\sqrt{2gh}\sqrt{\frac{2(H-h)}{g}}\right)^2
 
oo ic thanks...but i had one more question;
In Fig. 16-41, a stick of length L = 1.6 m oscillates as a physical pendulum. (a) What value of distance x between the stick's center of mass and its pivot point O gives the least period? (b) What is that least period?
http://edugen.wiley.com/edugen/courses/crs1141/art/qb/qu/c16/Fig15_46.gif

would i do the same thing that you did in the other question but with the formula of
T=2\pi\sqrt{I/mgh}
and then square both sides?
if i do i get T^2 is equal to a bunch of stuff over h and i want to find the derivitave of the period so i can find h at the max and min?
 
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