Fluid Dynamics: Static pressure in compressible Liquids

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The discussion focuses on deriving a relationship between static pressure and depth in compressible liquids, using the equations for density and pressure changes. The derived formula is P = (-1/k) ln(1 - kρ₀gy), with concerns raised about its potential to become undefined if kρ₀gy exceeds 1. However, it is clarified that practical scenarios would not reach such extreme values, making the equation valid for typical conditions. Additionally, while compressibility k can vary with pressure, the initial approximation remains effective across a significant range. Overall, the solution is confirmed to be correct and applicable in real-world contexts.
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Homework Statement


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"Derive a relation between the static pressure P at a point and its depth y from the free surface of the liquid. Given the surface density of liquid is ρο, and compressibility of the liquid is k."

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##ρ(P) = ρ_οe^{kP}##
##dP = ρg dy##

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I have already found that:
##ρ(P) = ρ_οe^{kP}##

Then, from the relation:
##dP = ρg dy##

and using ##ρ(P) = ρ_οe^{kP}##, we get:

##e^{-kP} dP = ρ_ο g dy##

Integrating L.H.S. from 0 to P and R.H.S. from 0 to y, we get:

$$P = \frac {-1}{k} \ln(1 - kρ_ο gy)$$

Are my limits correct? Is the answer correct? I ask this because the answer looks like it could easily become undefined (if ##kρ_ο gy## became greater than 1). If it is wrong, then why? If it is correct, then how does it not become undefined?
 
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The answer is correct. In practice, you would never encounter values of y huge enough for the expression to become undefined. Imagine how much pressure it would take to compress liquid water to half its volume (say). Also, in reality, k varies gradually with P, but the starting equation is a good approximation over a substantial range of pressures.

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Chestermiller said:
The answer is correct. In practice, you would never encounter values of y huge enough for the expression to become undefined. Imagine how much pressure it would take to compress liquid water to half its volume (say). Also, in reality, k varies gradually with P, but the starting equation is a good approximation over a substantial range of pressures.

Chet
Thank you very much! :)
 
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