Friction problem on cube of mass

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum angular speed (w(max)) at which a small cube remains on the inside wall of a funnel during rotation. Participants analyze the forces acting on the cube, including static friction and gravitational components, and set up equations based on these forces. There is a focus on correctly identifying the direction of forces and components, particularly the centripetal acceleration, which points inward toward the axis of rotation. Corrections are suggested regarding the signs of the forces and the need to ensure that the equations reflect the proper physical relationships. The final expression for w(max) is derived, but there is uncertainty about the accuracy of the calculations and the setup of the equations.
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a very small cube of mass m is placed on the inside wall of a funnel. The wall of the funnel makes an angle theta with the vertical axis of rotation (dotted line). The center of the cube is a distance r from the axis of rotation. the cube is held by static friciton. The funnel is then rotated about a vertical axis at an angular speed of w (omega). it is found that the angular speed can be increased to a maximum value w(max) (omega max) at which point the cube is no longer held by the static frictional force and it flies out of the funnel. calculate w(max)
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i separated everything into x and y components, but i think i did this wrong
i got equations
Fstatic - Fg cos theta = mw(max)^2r
Fn - Fg sin theta = ma
am i suppose to set a to zero? and are those even right to begin with
 
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It helps to make a drawing with the forces an angles on it.
 

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okay, this is what i got so far, i don't know if its right. correct me if i had a mistake

taking xaxis is // to side of funnel, and yais is perpendicular to side of funnel, i drew fbd and the forces i got are
x components : Fs, - mg cos theta
y components : Fn, - mg sin theta

so i hvae two equations:
Fs - mg cos theta = mw^2r (1)
Fn - mg sin theta = ma
Fn - mg sin theta = 0
Fn = mg sin theta
since mew (u) = Fs/Fn
Fs = u Fn
Fs = u mg sin theta
subbign that into equation (1)
u mg sin theta - mg cos theta = mw^2r
masses cancel
u g sin theta - g cos theta = w^2r
isolating for w:
w = sqrt [g((u sin theta + cos theta)/r)]

is that right?
 
I don't think so. Your Fs should be negative, but even more serious is that the centripetal acceleration of the cube is horizontal, pointing inwards towards the vertical axis.
 
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