Harmonic Motion Spring Constant

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The discussion revolves around calculating the spring constant for a cart executing simple harmonic motion on an air track. The cart has a period of 4 seconds, a mass of 2 kg, and a maximum displacement of 1.8 m. Initial attempts to calculate the spring constant using force and displacement were incorrect due to the misunderstanding of forces acting on the cart. The correct approach involves using angular frequency (ω), derived from the period, to find the spring constant with the formula k = ω² * m. The final calculation yields a spring constant of approximately 4.93 N/m.
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Hello I was given this problem, and I have two possible answers and I really just need someone to verify which one is right, or at least in the right direction. Thanks!

Homework Statement


A cart is floating on an airtrack and is connected by a spring to one fixed object. The cart executes simple harmonic motion with a period of 4 seconds. Its mass is 2kg. Its maximum displacement from rest position is 1.8m. Calculate the spring constant and provide units.


Homework Equations


Given in problem statement:
ω² = (F/s)/m
What I found online:
k = -F/x

The Attempt at a Solution


Using k = -F/x ( But I'm not sure I was suppose to use this equation.
k = - F(force=ma)/x(displacement)
k = - 2*9.8/1.8
k= - 196/1.8
k= 108.89 n/m

Using ω² = (F/s)/m I came up with
ω² = (F/s)/m
(196/4)/2 = 24.5 n/m
 
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Rookie said:
Hello I was given this problem, and I have two possible answers and I really just need someone to verify which one is right, or at least in the right direction. Thanks!

Homework Statement


A cart is floating on an airtrack and is connected by a spring to one fixed object. The cart executes simple harmonic motion with a period of 4 seconds. Its mass is 2kg. Its maximum displacement from rest position is 1.8m. Calculate the spring constant and provide units.


Homework Equations


Given in problem statement:
ω² = (F/s)/m
What I found online:
k = -F/x

The Attempt at a Solution


Using k = -F/x ( But I'm not sure I was suppose to use this equation.
k = - F(force=ma)/x(displacement)
k = - 2*9.8/1.8

How does the gravitational acceleration come in? The cart is on an air-track, and floats. It does not fall!

Rookie said:
Using ω² = (F/s)/m I came up with
ω² = (F/s)/m
(196/4)/2 = 24.5 n/m
You have to know the meaning of the symbols in the formula you are using. What are F, s, ω?

ehild
 
F = force
s = Seconds
omega is angular velocity
I pretty sure those are right, not sure about s though.

And about the gravitational acceleration, I guess that was a mistake haha
 
You used mg = 196 N for the force. It is wrong.
Read about SHM (simple harmonic motion) in your book or lecture notes. What force acts to objects performing SHM? How is ω related with the spring constant (k) and the mass (m)?

ehild
 
okay so ω is angular frequency, s was displacement.
ω = spring constant (k) / mass (m)
So if I want the spring constant I would need to work out ω and then ω * m which would equal the spring constant?
 
ω also equals 2π/f, 2 * pi / T
frequency = 1/T
 
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ω = 2 * 3.1415 / 4 (T)
ω = 1.57 rad/s
k = ω * m
k = (3.14²) * 2

k = 6.28 n/m
Okay I think that this is the answer! Please check what I've done =)
 
Rookie said:
okay so ω is angular frequency, s was displacement.
[STRIKE]ω = spring constant (k) / mass (m)[/STRIKE]
So if I want the spring constant I would need to work out ω and then ω * m which would equal the spring constant?

ω2=k/m

ehild
 
Okay hows this?
ω² = (F/s)/m
ω² =k/m

ω = 2π/T
ω = 2 * 3.1415 / 4 (T)
ω = 1.57 rad/s
ω convert to ω²
ω² = 2.46
k = ω² * m
k = 2.46 * 2
k = 4.93 n/m
 
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It is much better.:smile: But "Newton", the unit of force, is abbreviated with capital N.

ehild
 
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