Heat & Cold: Atomic Level & Beyond

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of heat and cold at the atomic level, exploring why objects feel hot or cold based on thermal energy transfer and the subjective experience of temperature. It encompasses theoretical explanations, physiological responses, and the nature of temperature measurement.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that heat is defined as the amount of thermal energy in a system, while cold is simply a lesser amount of thermal energy compared to a reference system.
  • It is suggested that temperature correlates with the vibration of particles, where faster vibrations indicate higher temperatures and slower vibrations indicate lower temperatures.
  • One participant argues that heat is the flow of thermal energy between bodies, influenced by temperature differences and thermal conductivity, citing examples of how materials at the same temperature can feel different due to their thermal properties.
  • Another participant challenges the notion that temperature is solely about molecular vibrations, noting that for gases, temperature is primarily a function of translational kinetic energy, largely independent of molecular vibrations.
  • There is a discussion about the subjective nature of temperature perception, with some participants emphasizing that while temperature is an objective measure, the sensation of hot and cold can be influenced by individual physiological responses.
  • A participant shares personal experiences to illustrate how the perception of temperature can change based on prior exposure to different thermal environments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the definitions and implications of heat and cold. While there are shared views on the basic concepts, significant contention exists around the subjective experience of temperature and the role of molecular motion versus thermal energy transfer.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific definitions of temperature and thermal energy, which may not be universally accepted. The discussion also highlights the complexity of temperature perception, which may vary based on individual experiences and environmental contexts.

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What is heat and cold in the atomic scale? Why do things sometimes feel hot and sometimes cold?
 
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Heat is the amount of thermal energy a system has. Cold just means that a system has lesser thermal energy as compared to a reference system.
Atomic scale, it's the vibration of the particles in the system. An object feels hot because when you are in contact with the system, heat is conducted from the system to your hand, and vice versa for the cold, to achieve thermal equilibrium.

This is just a very simplistic understanding of hot and cold.
 
yeah just like thunder said, temperature is just how fast something is vibrating. The faster an atom or molecule vibrates/moves, the hotter it is, as the vibrations get slower, it gets closer. If you stop all motion then you get the temp down to absolute zero (0 K)

basically a way to measure how fast something is moving.
since hot and cold are subjective terms
hot = fast compared to you
cold = slow compared to you
 
Heat is the flow of thermal energy from one body to another. Objects feel hot or cold depending on how fast heat is transferring between the objects. The rate of heat flow is determined by both the temperature difference and the thermal conductivity between the two objects. For example, touching a steel pole at 32 F will feel colder than a wooden pole at 32F.
 
Routaran said:
temperature is just how fast something is vibrating.

Not entirely. For atmospheric gases at the temperatures normally encountered in the atmosphere, gas temperatures are purely a function of the kinetic energy of translation. They are almost entirely independent of molecular vibrations and other internal energies.
 
QuantumPion said:
For example, touching a steel pole at 32 F will feel colder than a wooden pole at 32F.

Yes, but they are at exactly the same temperature. I believe that in Physics, temperature is an objective phenomenon, not a subjective one.

In fairness, in the field of physiological climatology we do deal with subjective temperatures. However, we take pains to point out that these "sensible" temperatures are purely in the mind and do not exist in the environment.
 
Osviux said:
What is heat and cold in the atomic scale? Why do things sometimes feel hot and sometimes cold?

There are two concepts here. What is heat, (and by extension cold) and Why do we feel hot and cold.

Heat has been described here already so I'll avoid repeating that.

I THINK this is an accurate description, but I could be wrong.

The reason things feel hot and cold is that our nerves that tell us that depend on heat transfer to determine how hot or cold something is. For example, if I go outside in the cold 30 degree weather with no gloves on, when I come back inside I can turn on the cold water tap in my sink and the water will feel WARM to my hand. Why is this? Because at that point the temperature of the skin on my hand is colder than the water is. There is heat being transferred from the water and into my hand.

Similarly coming into my house from outside where it is 105 degrees or so, and into the 78 degree AC feels MUCH colder than 78 degrees would feel if I had been in my house for a few hours.

Now, none of this brings core body temperature into the issue. We are merely talking about the temperature of your skin. Your skin can easily be much colder or warmer than your core temperature without danger.
 

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