Heat transfer calorimeter question

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The problem involves a calorimetry scenario where a copper calorimeter contains water and ice at equilibrium. A mass of lead at a higher temperature is introduced, and the objective is to determine the final temperature of the system, considering it as a closed system with no heat loss.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about whether to consider the latent heat of the ice in their calculations. Some participants suggest including a term for the latent heat of melting the ice and recommend a different approach to setting up the calorimetry equation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the necessary components of the calorimetry equation and the importance of accounting for the latent heat of fusion for the ice. Guidance has been offered regarding the setup of the equation, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

The problem involves specific masses and temperatures, and there is a mention of needing to account for the latent heat of fusion for the ice, which is a critical aspect of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



A copper calorimeter with mass 0.1 kg contains 0.15 kg of water and 0.012 kg of ice in their equilibrium at normal atmospheric pressure(0 degrees Celsius). If 0.5 kg of lead at 200 Celsius is dropped in calorimetr, what is the final temperature?( consider the close system so no temperature lost).

Homework Equations



Cw*Mw*(Tf-Ti)=Cice*Mice*(Tf-Ti)=Ccop*Mcop*(Tf-Ti)=Clead*Mlead*(Ti-Tf)

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure if i have to consider the latent phase, so any help would be appreciated.
Thank you.
 
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There is some ice in the initial state of the calorimeter, so you will need to include a term for the latent heat of melting the 12 g. of ice.

Oh, and your equation is not going to be of any help to you like that. All the terms can't be equal! A standard way to set up a calorimetry equation is to put all the items that will be releasing heat on one side and the items which will be receiving heat on the other, with Qout = -Qin .
 
Thank you dynamicsolo. Is it possible for you to tell me the number of ice latent heat of fusion?
 
For you, certainly! It's 334 J/gm = 79.8 cal/gm for ice.

But keep in mind that Google is your friend (as they say on many forums). "Everything" is on the 'Net these days; for instance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_heat (see the table under 'Water')
 

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