HII Region Temperature Structure

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The discussion revolves around the temperature structure of HII regions, specifically in the context of modeling a pure hydrogen HII region using Osterbrock's book "Astrophysics of Gaseous Nebulae and Active Galactic Nuclei." Participants explore the relationship between ionization and temperature, as well as seek resources for accurate modeling.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is modeling a pure hydrogen HII region and seeks guidance on expected temperature values.
  • Another participant notes that the typical temperature of an ionized hydrogen region is around 10^4 K, referencing various online resources.
  • Some participants argue that the ionization process does not directly influence temperature, suggesting that temperature arises from the excess energy of photons above the ionization threshold of 13.6 eV.
  • There is mention of the electron energy being approximately 1 eV, which may indicate a distribution of energy/temperature within the HII region.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between ionization and temperature, with some asserting that they are not directly related while others reference established temperature values for HII regions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise mechanisms affecting temperature.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various sources for temperature values and characteristics of HII regions, but there is no consensus on the underlying reasons for the temperature structure or the role of ionization in determining it.

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I'm trying to use Osterbrock's book "Astrophysics of Gaseous Nebulae and Active Galacic Nuclei" to made a model of a pure Hydrogen HII region. I've got the ionization structure down, but I'm having trouble with the temperature. Can anyone recommend somewhere that shows what I should be getting?
 
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But the ionization doesn't have much to do with the temperature, since the hydrogen is being ionized by the photons over 13.6, not collisionally. Doesn't the temperature come from the excess energy (over 13.6) from the photons?
 
Poppop said:
I'm trying to use Osterbrock's book "Astrophysics of Gaseous Nebulae and Active Galacic Nuclei" to made a model of a pure Hydrogen HII region. I've got the ionization structure down, but I'm having trouble with the temperature. Can anyone recommend somewhere that shows what I should be getting?

http://www.astro.uu.se/~ke/summ9.pdf

page 4 and 5

This is what I can contribute:P
 
Poppop said:
But the ionization doesn't have much to do with the temperature, since the hydrogen is being ionized by the photons over 13.6, not collisionally. Doesn't the temperature come from the excess energy (over 13.6) from the photons?
The fact that all the sources mention that the temperature of the HII region is on the order of 104 K indicates that the electron (and perhaps ion) energy is about 1 eV. And I imagine there is some kind distribution of energy/temperature.
 

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