How can i know the current gain of transistor fom its data sheet?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding how to determine the current gain (Hfe) of a transistor from its datasheet, particularly in relation to varying collector-emitter voltages (Vce) and collector currents (Ic). Participants explore the implications of these variables on the accuracy and applicability of Hfe values provided in datasheets.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the relationship between Ic and Hfe at a specific Vce (e.g., Vce=4 volts) is only valid at that voltage and seeks methods to calculate Hfe for different Ic values at other Vce levels.
  • Another participant notes that Hfe varies between individual transistors of the same type and is influenced by temperature, collector current, and Vce. They suggest that while Hfe at Vce=4 volts is approximately constant over a range of Vce values, it is contingent on staying above saturation voltage and below breakdown voltage.
  • A third participant points out that the DC current gain is plotted at a Vce that maximizes current gain, indicating that this specific condition is important for interpreting datasheet values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants acknowledge that Hfe is variable and dependent on multiple factors, but there is no consensus on how to calculate Hfe for different conditions outside of those specified in the datasheet.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence of Hfe on temperature, collector current, and Vce, as well as the lack of specific methods for calculating Hfe at varying conditions.

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how can i know the current gain of transistor fom its data sheet??

when i open a datasheet for a certain transistor i find a relation between Ic and Hfe at a certain Vce (ex Vce=4 volt), did this relation only correct at that Vce ? and if its that how can i calculate the Hfe for a certain Ic at any other value of Vce ? ?
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First you should know that Hfe will vary from one transistor to the next, even if it's the same type (eg tip31A), that's why the datasheet lists "typical' values.

Additionally, for any given transistor, Hfe will also vary as a function of temperature, as a function of collector current, and as a function of Vce.

The variation of Ic/Ib with collector voltage is large as you approach saturation but not so large for bigger values of Vce.

So to answer to your question, the value of Hfe given at Vce=4 volts will remain approximately constant for a range of Vce values, provided Vce stays greater than about a volt more than Vce_sat (and of course less than the Vce breakdown voltage).
 


Note that the DC current gain plotted in Fig.1 of your transistor is plotted at a Vce that maximizes current gain.

Bob S
 


thnx for replaying
 

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