How Do I Start Solving a Lagrangian Mechanics Problem?

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



Book gives completely irrelevant equations.

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I couldn't even solve A. I have no clue how to start this. The instructor isn't providing any assistance and it's not a book problem meaning, book equations are completely irrelevant.
Please help . I need guidance. If could solve it and then help me step by step with explanation, that would be great :) thank you!
 
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When you say you couldn't do part A, what was your confusion? Taking the partial derivatives? Identifying Fi? It's easy to say you're completely confused, but you should try to explain what little bit that you do understand.
 
This problem is pretty much just grinding through some math. You're given a Lagrangian

L=\frac{1}{2}m_1\dot{x}_1^2+\frac{1}{2}m_1\dot{x}_2^2-\frac{k}{|x_1-x_2|}

and the Euler-Lagrange equations

\frac{\partial L}{\partial x_j} - \frac{d}{dt}\,\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}_j} = 0

For part (a), plug that Lagrangian you're given into the Euler-Lagrange equation. You'll end up with a term like m_j\ddot{x}_j in your result. Isolate it. What it's equal to is Fj.

Treat the coordinates and velocities as independent variables, and it will simplify things if you write the potential as

V(x_1,x_2) = \frac{k}{|x_1-x_2|} = \frac{k}{\sqrt{(x_1-x_2)^2}}

to get rid of the absolute value.

If you're getting stuck, post your work so we can see how and where you're getting stuck or going wrong.
 
vela said:
This problem is pretty much just grinding through some math. You're given a Lagrangian

L=\frac{1}{2}m_1\dot{x}_1^2+\frac{1}{2}m_1\dot{x}_2^2-\frac{k}{|x_1-x_2|}

and the Euler-Lagrange equations

\frac{\partial L}{\partial x_j} - \frac{d}{dt}\,\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}_j} = 0

For part (a), plug that Lagrangian you're given into the Euler-Lagrange equation. You'll end up with a term like m_j\ddot{x}_j in your result. Isolate it. What it's equal to is Fj.

Treat the coordinates and velocities as independent variables, and it will simplify things if you write the potential as

V(x_1,x_2) = \frac{k}{|x_1-x_2|} = \frac{k}{\sqrt{(x_1-x_2)^2}}

to get rid of the absolute value.

If you're getting stuck, post your work so we can see how and where you're getting stuck or going wrong.


Oh my gosh. Thank you so much! exactly what I was looking for. I worked through it so well with your help. THUMBS UP!
 
To solve this, I first used the units to work out that a= m* a/m, i.e. t=z/λ. This would allow you to determine the time duration within an interval section by section and then add this to the previous ones to obtain the age of the respective layer. However, this would require a constant thickness per year for each interval. However, since this is most likely not the case, my next consideration was that the age must be the integral of a 1/λ(z) function, which I cannot model.
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