How Do Mechanical Advantages Affect Accelerations in a Pulley System?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the accelerations of two masses in a pulley system with given values for mass, gravity, and applied force. It explores the concept of mechanical advantage, suggesting that the smaller mass's acceleration may be affected differently than the larger mass's due to the pulley configuration. The user attempts to apply Newton's second law (F=ma) to derive the accelerations but expresses confusion about the implications of mechanical advantage and the relationship between the two masses. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the need to clarify the question regarding the accelerations under the specified tension. Understanding the mechanics of the system is crucial for accurate calculations.
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Homework Statement


The original question is: What are the accelerations of the two masses?

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Given:
M=8kg
m=3kg
g=10m/s^2
Fapp=120N

Assume all pulleys and strings are massless and frictionless

My problem is whether there is a mechanical advantage in the question so I should divide the acceleration of the smaller mass by 2, and the acceleration of the larger mass by 4.


Homework Equations



F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



Since the two masses are independent of each other, I thought that the accelerations of both masses were seperate.

So, for the first mass,

F = 2T - mg
ma = 2T - mg

I thought that tension force was equal to the applied force so,

a = [2(120) - (3)(10)]/3
a = 70m/s^2


For the second mass,

F = 2T - Mg
Ma = 2T - Mg
a = [2(120) - (8)(10)]/8
a = 20m/s^2

The reason I believe that there is a mechanical advantage is because if you pull the string by 1m, then the small mass will only move up by 0.5m, and the large mass, 0.25m
 
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I don't understand the question itself. If you hold the string end still, the large mass will fall and pull the small mass up. What are they actually asking you?

I just read what you wrote for givens again. Are you asking what a is for each mass if 120N of tension?

If so, simply apply F=ma on each one and one string has one tension T=120N, so for small mass: 2T-3g=3a and for large: 8g-2T=8a, sub in T and solve for a for each (they will be different a values for large and small masses).
 
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