How Do You Apply the Chain and Product Rules in Differentiation?

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Homework Statement


Differentiate...
(3x+4)^7 (7x-1)^3
and
simplify

Homework Equations



Chain rule and Product rule

The Attempt at a Solution



I got (splitting the components up to substitute into the product rule) and using the chain rule

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> \\f(x) = (3x+4)^7\\<br /> f&#039;(x) = 21(3x+4)^6\\<br /> g(x) = (7x-1)^3\\<br /> g&#039;(x) = 21(7x-1)^2<br /> \end{align*}<br />

and so, using the product rule...
<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> \\f&#039;(x)g(x) + f(x)g&#039;(x)\\<br /> =21(3x+4)^6 (7x-1)^3 + 21(3x+4)^7 (7x-1)^2\\<br /> =(3x+4)^6 (7x-1)^3 + (3x+4)^7 (7x-1)^2\\<br /> \end{align*}<br />

and now I don't know how to simplify further.
I got it down to 10x+3, but this doesn't match the answer in the marking

21(3x+4)^6 (7x-1)^2 (10x+3)

Any ideas guys?
 
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andrew.c said:

Homework Statement


Differentiate...
(3x+4)^7 (7x-1)^3
and
simplify


Homework Equations



Chain rule and Product rule

The Attempt at a Solution



I got (splitting the components up to substitute into the product rule) and using the chain rule

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> \\f(x) = (3x+4)^7\\<br /> f&#039;(x) = 21(3x+4)^6\\<br /> g(x) = (7x-1)^3\\<br /> g&#039;(x) = 21(7x-1)^2<br /> \end{align*}<br />

and so, using the product rule...
<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> \\f&#039;(x)g(x) + f(x)g&#039;(x)\\<br /> =21(3x+4)^6 (7x-1)^3 + 21(3x+4)^7 (7x-1)^2\\<br /> =(3x+4)^6 (7x-1)^3 + (3x+4)^7 (7x-1)^2\\<br /> \end{align*}<br />

and now I don't know how to simplify further.
I got it down to 10x+3, but this doesn't match the answer in the marking

21(3x+4)^6 (7x-1)^2 (10x+3)

Any ideas guys?
How could you possibly do this differentiation correctly (which you did) and not be able to multiply polynomials! You product, after multiplying out, will involve x9. It certainly is not "10x+ 3"!

Notice that your (3x+4)^6(7x-1)^3+ (3x+4)^7(7x-1)^2 has at least 6 factors of 3x-4 and 2 factors of 7x-1 in each term. Take them out and you have left exactly that "10x+3" you mentioned.
 
HallsofIvy said:
How could you possibly do this differentiation correctly (which you did) and not be able to multiply polynomials!

Yeah, just had a look through this again and that was a really stupid mistake! I guess that's what hours of maths can do to you!

Thanks
 
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