How Does Mass Redistribution Affect Angular Velocity?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of mass redistribution on the angular velocity of a rotating rod when the connecting thread between two masses breaks. Participants are exploring concepts related to angular momentum and moment of inertia in the context of rotational dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the assumptions regarding the conservation of angular momentum and the relationship between angular velocity and moment of inertia. There are attempts to clarify what happens to the radius and velocity when the masses slide to the ends of the rod.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering hints and questioning each other's assumptions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the conservation of angular momentum, but there is no explicit consensus on the implications of the mass redistribution yet.

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There is uncertainty about the definitions of radius in this context and the potential effects of external factors such as friction. Participants are also navigating the implications of different conserved quantities in the system.

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The figure attached shows two masses held together by a thread on a rod that is rotating about its center with angular velocity w. If the thread breaks, the masses will slide out to the ends of the rod. How will that affect the rod's angular velocity. Will it increase, decrease, or remain unchanged? Explain.

My attempt:

w= V/R

Neither of the two variables change, wouldn't it remain unchanged?

Thanks!
 

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How do you know that neither variable changes? What do you consider a conserved quantity, and why ?
 
Radius remains the same. Velocity will change I guess. It has something to do with angular momentum may be?
Can you guide me here?
 
Radius remains the same ? I read that the masses will slide to the ends of the rod ? What is it that we call radius here ?
 
Hint: Rotational energy is conserved, but what happens to the moment of inertia of the system?

The rotational energy is ##E=\frac{1}{2}I\omega^{2}##, where ##I## is the moment of inertia and ##\omega## the angular velocity.

EDIT: Just to be sure, let's rather say that angular momentum, ##L=I\omega## is the quantity that is conserved... The answer is same, anyway.
 
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hilbert2 said:
Hint: Rotational energy is conserved, but what happens to the moment of inertia of the system?

The rotational energy is ##E=\frac{1}{2}I\omega^{2}##, where ##I## is the moment of inertia and ##\omega## the angular velocity.

EDIT: Just to be sure, let's rather say that angular momentum, ##L=I\omega## is the quantity that is conserved... The answer is same, anyway.
Yes, you must use angular momentum here, not energy - for two reasons.
First, we don't know whether there is friction. Second, we don't know how much KE there is in the radial motion.
 

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