How Does Moving at 20sqrt(2) m/s Affect the Projectile's Trajectory Equation?

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The problem involves determining the trajectory equation of a projectile as observed from a moving frame of reference, specifically at a speed of 20√2 m/s along the positive x-axis. The original trajectory equation is provided, and the task is to adapt this equation for the moving observer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to analyze the components of motion separately, particularly focusing on how the observer's velocity affects the x and y components of the projectile's motion. There are attempts to understand the implications of the given trajectory equation and how to modify it for the moving observer.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the separation of motion components and the use of kinematic relationships, though there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take. One participant has expressed confusion about the suggestions provided.

Contextual Notes

There is an acknowledgment of the missing information regarding initial conditions such as angle and magnitude of velocity, which may be critical for solving the problem. Participants are also considering the assumption of constant acceleration due to gravity acting only in the y direction.

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Homework Statement


To an observer not in motion in the ground, the trajectory of a projectile is described by:
[itex]y = x - 10^{-3}x^2[/itex](In SI units)
Where it was adopted x = 0 and y = 0 for the origin point. Determine the trajectory equation for an observer that moves at 20sqrt(2) m/s in relation to the ground, in the positive x axis.

(Answer is [itex]y = \frac{5}{3}x - \frac{1}{360}x^2[/itex])

Homework Equations



Only the equations already given.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea whatsoever on how to deal with this problem. I have learned how to deal with relative position problems, and relative velocity problems, but I have no idea how to change the equation themselves and make them reflect that.
 
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Look at each motion separately. First of all, what is the x component of the velocity relative to the stationary observer, from your equation? Then, if the observer is moving with 20√2 m/s, what is the x component relative to him? Do the same for the y component.

Think about what that graph is actually telling you about these values.
 
I apologize, but I do not understand what you mean. Could you maybe rephrase it, in case I am missing something obvious?

I tried taking the inverse function (So I would have the movement in function of x), but still, that didn't help me.
 
Hmm.. if you start with your basic kinematics relationships, you should be able to construct a relationship between y and x involving the initial velocity angle, initial velocity magnitude and the constant acceleration.

However, in this case, you don't know the initial angle, velocity and accelerations. So, it's a matter of working it out the other way.

EDIT: Also you'll probably be working under the assumption that there is only a deceleration of g in the y direction. With all that, you should get the raw materials for which you can answer the question.
 
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