How Is Kinetic Friction Calculated in Skier's Uphill Motion?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of kinetic friction in the context of a skier moving uphill on a slope. The problem involves determining the work done by kinetic friction and the magnitude of the kinetic frictional force, given specific parameters such as mass, angle of the slope, initial and final speeds, and distance traveled.

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  • Participants discuss the application of energy equations to find the work done by kinetic friction and question the correctness of the original poster's attempts at calculations. There are considerations of potential sign errors in the equations used.

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Some participants express agreement with the approach taken for the work calculation, while others suggest there may be sign errors affecting the results. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants engaging in verification of the calculations.

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There is a mention of potential sign errors in the calculations, indicating that assumptions about directionality in the energy equations may be under scrutiny. The original poster's attempts at solutions have not yielded the expected results, prompting further exploration of the problem.

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A 64.9-kg skier coasts up a snow-covered hill that makes an angle of 23.4 ° with the horizontal. The initial speed of the skier is 8.95 m/s. After coasting a distance of 2.31 m up the slope, the speed of the skier is 4.40 m/s. (a) Find the work done by the kinetic frictional force that acts on the skis. (b) What is the magnitude of the kinetic frictional force?

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Homework Equations



W=FX 2K=mv^2 a=(v^2-v0^2)/2x

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for (b) i used f=ma-mg sinθ,

or 1/2mv^2-1/2mv0^2-mgxsinθ for (a),

but neither was right...
 
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1/2mv^2-1/2mv0^2-mgxsinθ for (a)
looks good to me. What did you get?
 
Delphi51 said:
1/2mv^2-1/2mv0^2-mgxsinθ for (a)
looks good to me. What did you get?

I think there may be a sign error here?

\rm \Delta E = K_f - K_i + U_{f_{grav}}-U_{i_{grav}} = \frac{1}{2}m (v_f^2-v_i^2) +mg s Sin\theta = -1390J
 
Correct! thank you!
 
onyxorca said:
Correct! thank you!

You're welcome. If I had $1 for every time I've made a sign error in my lifetime, well, I'd own beach-front property in South Hampton. :smile:
 

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