How Much Energy to Position Four Charges at Square Corners?

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on calculating the energy required to position four positive charges of +5.0 mC at the corners of a square with a side length of 2.5 cm. The initial approach involves using the formula for electric potential, V = kQ/r, leading to a net potential of 7.2 x 10^9 V. However, the conversation shifts to the need for potential energy calculations, U = kQ^2/r, considering the interactions between the charges. The final energy calculated for bringing the charges from infinity is 4.9 x 10^7 J. The assembly of charges and the calculation of potential at each vertex are also discussed, emphasizing the importance of summing individual potentials.
flower76
Messages
51
Reaction score
0
I'm not sure that I really understand this question:

How much energy is needed to place four positive charges, each of magnitude +5.0mC, at the vertices of a square of side 2.5cm?


what I was thinking is that V = kQ/r

And since all the charges are equal, and the same distance apart V1=V2=V3=V4 = (9x10^9)(5x10^-3C)/2.5x10^-2m = 1.8x10^9V

Vnet = V1 +V2 + V3 + V4 = 7.2x10^9V

However I haven't taken into account the diaganols - do I need to?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
What you want to add is potential energy, not potential. The energy needed to bring two identical charges from infinity to a distance r apart is:
U = kQ^2/r

Hint: Imagine the four charges being brought from infinity, one at a time.
 
Ok I think I got it I added the potenial energy between each of the 6 charge sets and got 4.9x10^7J, hopefully that sounds about right.
I think I was getting things confused with the second part of the question:

Choose one way of assembling the charges and calculate the potential at each empty vertex as this set of charges is assembled. Clearly descrive the order of assembly.

Would I be correct to use V =kQ/r for this part of the question?
 
Last edited:
flower76 said:
Would I be correct to use V =kQ/r for this part of the question?

Yes, you should sum all of the individual potentials, for example;

V_{total} = \frac{kQ_{1}}{r_{1}} + ... + \frac{kQ_{n}}{r_{n}}

Where rn is the distance from the charge Qn to the empty vertex.

~H
 
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'Calculation of Tensile Forces in Piston-Type Water-Lifting Devices at Elevated Locations'
Figure 1 Overall Structure Diagram Figure 2: Top view of the piston when it is cylindrical A circular opening is created at a height of 5 meters above the water surface. Inside this opening is a sleeve-type piston with a cross-sectional area of 1 square meter. The piston is pulled to the right at a constant speed. The pulling force is(Figure 2): F = ρshg = 1000 × 1 × 5 × 10 = 50,000 N. Figure 3: Modifying the structure to incorporate a fixed internal piston When I modify the piston...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top