How to Calculate the Elongation of a Spring with a Submerged Block?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the elongation of a spring attached to a submerged wooden block in a beaker filled with water. The spring constant and the properties of the block, including its mass and density, are provided, but the participants are exploring how to correctly apply the relevant physics principles to find the elongation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Hooke's law and question the initial calculations involving force and elongation. There is uncertainty about how to incorporate the buoyant force acting on the block and how it affects the spring's elongation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on considering the buoyant force and its relationship to the weight of the block. Multiple interpretations of the forces acting on the block are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions of force and buoyancy, and there is mention of needing to clarify the relationship between the block's weight and the forces acting on the spring. The problem's setup may require additional information or assumptions regarding the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


One end of a massless spring with hook-law constant K=119 N/M is epoxied to the bottom of a beaker. The other end of the spring is epoxied to a wooden block of mass m=4.17 kg and density 695 kg/m^3. THe beaker if filled with water until the block is fully immersed. Calculate the elongation of the spring. delta L= ??


Homework Equations


The equation I was trying to use was Fx=-kx
I do not think this is correct because my answer was wrong.


The Attempt at a Solution


I put the data into the equation -k as -119 and x as 4.17 times 695 but in the end I still did not get delta L and that is what I need. I do not know where to begin with this problem.
 
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dban33 said:
… The other end of the spring is epoxied to a wooden block of mass m=4.17 kg and density 695 kg/m^3. THe beaker if filled with water until the block is fully immersed. Calculate the elongation of the spring. delta L= ??

I put the data into the equation … x as 4.17 times 695 …

Hi dban33! :smile:

You've calculated the force by multiplying by the density

but the lighter the block is, the stronger the force will be …

so you should multiply by … ? :smile:
 
Ok...so the lighter the block is...the stronger the force will be. Does that mean that for the equation F=-kx...im trying to solve for x right? because x is the elongation of the spring. This would mean that I would have to know the force of the block. Is the force of an object its mass times gravitational force?? F=mg?
 

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