How to find acceleration given two masses , an angle ,and kinetic fric

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To find the acceleration of two connected masses, m1 (3.2 kg) and m2 (4.7 kg), with one mass on a 35-degree ramp and a coefficient of kinetic friction (uk = 0.30), the correct formula is derived from the net forces acting on the system. The initial calculations provided were incorrect, leading to confusion over the direction of acceleration. The suggested equation, (g[-m1sin(35°) - m1cos(35°)μk + m2])/(m1 + m2), yields an acceleration of 2.58 m/s². This approach clarifies the forces acting on m1 and m2, ensuring accurate results. Understanding the direction of forces is crucial for solving the problem correctly.
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Two masses m1=3.2 kg and m2=4.7 kg are connected by a thin string running over a massless pulley. One of the masses hangs from the string , the other mass slides on a 35 degree ramp with a coefficient of kinetic friction uk= 0.30. What is the acceleration of the masses?

I used 9.81(4.7-3.2[0.3cos(35)-sin(35)]/(3.2+4.7)=7.13 but its wrong
 
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??
 


I think (g(m1sen35º-m1cos35ºuk+m2))/(m1+m2) should do the trick.
 


would I need to convert to any specific units? like mm to m, g to kg?
 


I did (9.81(3.2sin(35)-3.2cos(35)(0.3)+4.7))/(3.2+4.7)=7.13
and it is wrong
 


Does it tell you which mass is on which end of the string?
 


yea m2 is hanging at the end of the string
 

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Sneakatone said:
I did (9.81(3.2sin(35)-3.2cos(35)(0.3)+4.7))/(3.2+4.7)=7.13
and it is wrong

No, it gives -6.46, i.e the masses accelerate in the other direction.
 
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If your saying the answer for acceleration is -6.46 then its wrong.
 
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Try 6.46?
 
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that is also incorrect.
 

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Sneakatone said:
I did (9.81(3.2sin(35)-3.2cos(35)(0.3)+4.7))/(3.2+4.7)=7.13
and it is wrong
You have a sign wrong. Think about which way the forces on m1 parallel to the ramp act.
 
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I switched cos with sin n I got 8 which is wrong
 
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Sneakatone said:
I switched cos with sin n I got 8 which is wrong
Wrong correction. List the forces acting on m1 parallel to the ramp. What are their magnitudes? Which ones act in the direction of acceleration and which oppose it? What does that make the net force producing the acceleration?
 
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Oh, sorry, I misunderstood the first post.

Try this equation for the acceleration:

(g[-m1sin35°-m1cos35°μk+m2])/(m1+m2)

It gives 2,58 m/s^2
 
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can someone please help with my question now?
 
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Did my equation work?
 
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Bananas40 said:
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood the first post.

Try this equation for the acceleration:

(g[-m1sin35°-m1cos35°μk+m2])/(m1+m2)

It gives 2,58 m/s^2

I agree with that.
 
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