Implicit Differentiation of Cylinder NOT given radius?

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Implicit Differentiation of Cylinder NOT given radius?

Homework Statement



Question: Digging in his backyard, Dennis accidentally breaks a pipe attached to his water sprinkling system. water bubbles up at a rate of 1 cm^3/s, forming a circular pond of depth 0.5cm in his yard. How quickly is the surface area of the pond covering his lawn?

Given: dV/dT= 1
depth= 0.5cm

RTF: dSA/Dt

Homework Equations



V= pi&r^2&h
SA= 2pi&r&h + 2pi&r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



i attempted a lot of things...i just always end up with the same problem: i don't know what r is or i can't find a way to relate r to anything.
 
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you don't actually need r at all.

V=Sh this is the formula for calculating the volume of a cylindrical shape right? S- surface area, h- depth.
Use this info to find \frac{dS}{dt} using the info you were given.
 
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banfill_89 said:

Homework Equations



V= pi&r^2&h
SA= 2pi&r&h + 2pi&r^2

Hi banfill_89! Welcome to PF! :smile:

First, you've missed out one relevant equation … what is V in terms of t?

And your SA equation is wrong … you're asked how fast the lawn is being covered. so you don't need the sides of the cylinder. And it's πr^2, not 2πr^2.
i attempted a lot of things...i just always end up with the same problem: i don't know what r is or i can't find a way to relate r to anything.

You have two equations for r … so you solve for r in the V equation (that is, you put "r =" on the left), and then you substitute that value of r into the SA equation.

You now have an SA equation with t but no r! :smile:
 
thanks

agh thanks a lot guys. i was heading in that direction too but my surface area equation was screwing me up. thanks for puttin me in the right direction
 
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