Index of refraction, calculate frequency. ~ stuck at 2 unknown variables

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The discussion revolves around calculating the frequency of laser waves used in eye surgery, given the wavelength in air and the index of refraction of the fluid in the eye. The problem involves understanding the relationship between wavelength, frequency, and the index of refraction.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the wavelength in air and the wavelength in the eye, questioning how to derive the frequency given the index of refraction. There is a discussion about the constancy of frequency across different media and the implications of changing wavelengths and velocities.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the constancy of frequency and the relationship between wavelength and velocity in different media. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions made about frequency and how it relates to the index of refraction.

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Participants express uncertainty about deriving the frequency due to the presence of two unknown variables and the implications of the index of refraction on the calculations. There is a sense of frustration regarding the simplicity of the problem despite the confusion experienced.

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Homework Statement



An laser is used of wavelength 544 x 10^-7 m (in air) for eye surgery. The index of refraction of the fluid in an eye is n = 1.43. Calculate the frequency of the laser waves in the eye.

n = 1.43
L1=544 x 10^-7
L2=
f =

Homework Equations



n=L1/L2

L1 being the wavelength in "air"
L2 being the wavelength in the eye

f=v/L

L=v/f

The Attempt at a Solution



so, given n and L1 its simple to find L2, so I now know the wavelength in the eye. Yet I can't seem to derive the frequency.

so:

n=L1/L2

1.43= (5.44 x 10^-7) / (v/f)

the frequency remains constant for both wavelengths.

so simply I would have to find the velocity of L1 or L2 that would be the frequency "within the eye"

v1/L1=v2/L2

the velocity is not the same so I now have 2 unknown variables.

I KNOW this isn't hard, my minds just shot right now
 
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You already said the correct answer. The frequency is the same. The wavelengths and velocities are different, but they both change by the same factor.
 
Thanks Dick,

I had though that, but then that same factor that they change by is simply equal to n. Using n for the frequency wouldn't create the correct answer. I'm just not thinking right.

If you or anyone else could elaborate it would be greatly appreciated.

I know this isn't complicated and I'm embarrassed to continue asking when I'm sure this is so simple..
 
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Air has basically n=1. f=v/lambda. In a different medium v->v/n, lambda->lambda/n. The frequency is unchanged. This is also sort of obvious. A thing that measures frequency is counting waves as they pass. If it's located outside of the eye it counts f waves per second. If it's inside the eye it must also count f waves per second. Otherwise, some 'waves' are getting lost somewhere. Where could they go??
 

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