Solving Double Integrals with Polar Coordinates: What's the Correct Approach?

In summary, the conversation is about finding the double integral of a given function using polar coordinates. The exchange includes discussions about the use of polar coordinates, finding the limits for the integral, and dealing with the issue of ln(0). The final solution involves fixing θ and finding the appropriate limit for r, which varies depending on the value of θ.
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Homework Statement



Find [tex]\int \left( \int \frac{x^2-y^2}{(x^2+y^2)^2} \;dx \right) dy.[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



How would I go about finding [itex]\int \frac{x^2-y^2}{(x^2+y^2)^2} \;dx[/itex]?

If I made the substitution [itex]u^2=x^2+y^2[/itex] how do I go from here?
 
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Use polar coordinates.
 
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dirk_mec1 said:
Use polar coordinates.

So letting [tex]x=r\cos \theta[/tex][tex]y=r\sin\theta[/tex] what would be the limits of the [itex]r[/itex] integral and the [itex]\theta[/itex] integral if [itex]x\in [0,1][/itex] and [itex]y\in [0,1][/itex]?
 
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Come on, Ted! :rolleyes:

θ obviously goes from 0 to π/2

and, for a fixed value of θ, r goes from 0 to … ? :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
Come on, Ted! :rolleyes:

θ obviously goes from 0 to π/2

and, for a fixed value of θ, r goes from 0 to … ? :smile:

Well if [itex]0 \leq \theta \leq \frac{\pi}{2}[/itex] and [itex]0 \leq r \leq 1[/itex] then [tex]\int^1_0 \int^1_0 \frac{x^2-y^2}{(x^2+y^2)^2}dxdy = \int^{\frac{\pi}{2}}_0 \int^1_0 \frac{\cos(2\theta)}{r} drd\theta[/tex]

but what do I do about [itex]\ln(0)[/itex]?
 
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Ted123 said:
Well if [itex]0 \leq \theta \leq \frac{\pi}{2}[/itex] and [itex]0 \leq r \leq 1[/itex]

No! It's a square!

How can r go from 0 to 1 to make a square? :redface:
 
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tiny-tim said:
No! It's a square!

How can r go from 0 to 1 to make a square? :redface:

If [itex]0 \leq r \leq \sqrt{2}[/itex] then I'm still faced with a [itex][\ln(r)]^{\sqrt{2}}_0[/itex]
 
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Ted, to find the limit you have to fix θ, and see where r goes between for that value of θ.

So your r limit will be a function of θ.

(btw, in this particular case, you'll need separate functions for θ ≤ π/4 and θ > π/4 :wink:)
 

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