Integral Question: Why Do Answers Differ?

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In summary, the conversation is about a question dealing with an integral and the use of trig and regular substitution methods. The person made a mistake in their trig substitution but was able to correct it with the help of another person. The final answer for the integral is \sqrt{x^2-4}+C.
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Homework Statement



I have a question dealing with this integral: [tex]\int\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-4}}[/tex]. I did the trig substitution to check my other method of substitution and got two different answers: [tex]\sqrt{x^2-4}[/tex] and [tex]\sqrt{x^2-4}/2[/tex]. The latter is from trig substitution and the former from regular substitution.



The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, here is my work for the trig substitution

x=2sec@
dx=2sec@tan@
(x^2-4) = 4tan^2@

I finally get the integral of sec^2@ which gives me tan@ and looking from the triangle I drew its answer is [tex]\sqrt{x^2-4}/2[/tex]. Why don't these two answers agree? Is there some rule suggesting not to use trig substitution or one way over the other?

Thank You
 
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Oh! I made a mistake with a coefficient, they agree with each other! Sorry
 
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The_ArtofScience said:

Homework Statement



I have a question dealing with this integral: [tex]\int\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2-4}}[/tex]. I did the trig substitution to check my other method of substitution and got two different answers: [tex]\sqrt{x^2-4}[/tex] and [tex]\sqrt{x^2-4}/2[/tex]. The latter is from trig substitution and the former from regular substitution.



The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, here is my work for the trig substitution

x=2sec@
dx=2sec@tan@
(x^2-4) = 4tan^2@

I finally get the integral of sec^2@ which gives me tan@ and looking from the triangle I drew its answer is [tex]\sqrt{x^2-4}/2[/tex]. Why don't these two answers agree? Is there some rule suggesting not to use trig substitution or one way over the other?

Thank You
You skipped over the critical step! Yes, if you let [itex]x= 2 sec(\theta)[/itex], then dx= 2sec(\theta)tan(\theta)d\theta[/itex] (you dropped the "[itex]d\theta[/itex]" just as you dropped the "dx" in the original integral- bad habit.) and [itex]x^2- 4= 4tan^2(\theta)[/itex] so [itex]\sqrt{x^2- 4}= 2 tan^2(\theta)[/itex]. Did you forget that the"4" in [itex]4 tan^2(\theta)[/itex] became "2" when you took the square root?

Now, the part you skipped- putting all that into the integral.
[tex]\int\frac{x dx}{\sqrt{x^2- 4}}= \int \frac{[2 sec(\theta)][2sec(\theta)tan(\theta)d\theta}{2 tan(\theta)}[/tex]
[tex]= 2\int sec^2(\theta)d\theta= 2 tan(\theta)+ C= 2tan(sec^{-1}(\frac{x}{2})+ C[/tex]
Notice the "2" still in there?

Now, if [itex]sec(\theta)= x/2[/itex], then we can represent that as a triangle with angle [itex]\theta[/itex], near side= 2, and hypotenuse= x. By the Pythagorean theorem, the opposite side has length [itex]\sqrt{x^2- 4}[/itex] and so [itex]tan(\theta)= \sqrt{x^2- 4}/2[/itex]. But because of the "2" multiplying the integral,
[tex]\int \frac{x dx}{\sqrt{x^2- 4}}= \sqrt{x^2- 4}+ C[/tex]
exactly as you would get if you make the substitution u= x2- 4.
 
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Excellent Halls,

I found my mistake but thanks for showing me the extended steps, :D
 

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