Is My Approach to Solving Gauss' Law for a Cylindrical Shell Correct?

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The discussion focuses on solving Gauss' Law for a cylindrical shell with a uniform charge distribution. The user calculates the net charge on the shell using a Gaussian surface at a radius of 19.0 cm, arriving at a charge of approximately 5.76 x 10^-7 C, but later revises this to 9.12 x 10^-7 C after reassessing the radius used in the calculation. For part (b), the user questions whether the electric field at a point 4.00 cm from the axis would be zero, as this point lies within the shell. The consensus is that the electric field inside a uniformly charged shell is indeed zero, confirming the user's understanding. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying Gauss' Law and understanding the implications of the shell's radius.
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I really just want to know if I'm doing this correctly, as I don't have access to the answer to check.

Homework Statement



A cylindrical shell of radius 7.00 cm and length 240 cm has its charge uniformly distributed on its curved surface. The magnitude of the electric field at a point 19.0 cm radially outward from its axis (measured from the midpoint of the shell) is 36.0 kN/C. Find (a) the net charge on the shell and (b) the electric field at a point 4.00 cm from the axis, measured radially outward from the midpoint of the shell.

Homework Equations



\phi=4\pi kQ

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) Because 19.0 cm is relatively close to the shell given its length of 240 cm, I chose a cylinder with radius of 0.19 m as my Gaussian surface. The electric field vector is parallel to the normal vector of the cylindrical surface at all points, so

\phi=EA=E2\pi (r-0.07 m)h=4\pi kQ \frac{h}{2.4 m}

Q=\frac{(2.4 m)E(r-0.07 m)}{2k}=\frac{(2.4 m)(3.60 * 10^{4} N/C)(0.12 m)}{2(9 * 10^{9} Nm^{2}/C^{2})}=5.76 * 10^{-7} C

(b) A point 4.00 cm from the axis is within the shell itself since it has a radius of 7.00 cm. If I were to choose a cylinder of radius 0.04 m for a Gaussian surface, would the electric field not be zero since it would contain no charge within?

I'm really not sure if I'm modeling this correctly at all. Any help is appreciated.
 
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Hi Tentothe,

Tentothe said:

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) Because 19.0 cm is relatively close to the shell given its length of 240 cm, I chose a cylinder with radius of 0.19 m as my Gaussian surface. The electric field vector is parallel to the normal vector of the cylindrical surface at all points, so

\phi=EA=E2\pi (r-0.07 m)h=4\pi kQ \frac{h}{2.4 m}

The area A is the area of the Gaussian surface, which is a cylinder with radius 19cm. Remember in this case we want the surface area of the curved part of the cylinder. Do you see what's not right in the above work?

Q=\frac{(2.4 m)E(r-0.07 m)}{2k}=\frac{(2.4 m)(3.60 * 10^{4} N/C)(0.12 m)}{2(9 * 10^{9} Nm^{2}/C^{2})}=5.76 * 10^{-7} C

(b) A point 4.00 cm from the axis is within the shell itself since it has a radius of 7.00 cm. If I were to choose a cylinder of radius 0.04 m for a Gaussian surface, would the electric field not be zero since it would contain no charge within?

That sounds right to me.
 
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I'm guessing it's the radius that's throwing me here. I think I may have originally had it correct with:

Q=\frac{(2.4 m)Er}{2k}=\frac{(2.4 m)(3.60 * 10^{4} N/C)(0.19 m)}{2(9 * 10^{9} Nm^{2}/C^{2})}=9.12 * 10^{-7} C

My thinking was that I'd made a mistake because the radius of the shell itself (7 cm) wasn't used anywhere in my answer, but it looks like that's really only there to help with part (b).
 
Tentothe said:
I'm guessing it's the radius that's throwing me here. I think I may have originally had it correct with:

Q=\frac{(2.4 m)Er}{2k}=\frac{(2.4 m)(3.60 * 10^{4} N/C)(0.19 m)}{2(9 * 10^{9} Nm^{2}/C^{2})}=9.12 * 10^{-7} C

My thinking was that I'd made a mistake because the radius of the shell itself (7 cm) wasn't used anywhere in my answer, but it looks like that's really only there to help with part (b).


That looks right to me.
 
Thanks for your help!
 
Sure, glad to help!
 
Tentothe said:
I'm guessing it's the radius that's throwing me here. I think I may have originally had it correct with:

Q=\frac{(2.4 m)Er}{2k}=\frac{(2.4 m)(3.60 * 10^{4} N/C)(0.19 m)}{2(9 * 10^{9} Nm^{2}/C^{2})}=9.12 * 10^{-7} C

My thinking was that I'd made a mistake because the radius of the shell itself (7 cm) wasn't used anywhere in my answer, but it looks like that's really only there to help with part (b).

please help me for b
 
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