Is Solenoid Inductance Proportional to Turns Squared?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between solenoid inductance and the number of turns, specifically whether the electromotive force (emf) equation should include the number of turns (N) or not. It is clarified that the emf is indeed proportional to both the number of turns and the rate of change of magnetic flux. This implies that inductance is proportional to the square of the number of turns, as increasing the number of turns also increases the magnetic field strength. The confusion arises from the potential double counting of the number of turns in the equations. Ultimately, the consensus is that including N in the emf equation reflects the correct relationship in solenoid inductance.
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In Solenoid, is emf E= N. d(phi)/dt, or is it simply d(phi)/dt? Some books contain the latter one. It was not a big deal until i gave a thought about it. Since increasing the N, we are actually increasing the value of n, thus increasing B= (mu) .n.I
So, by placing N in front of the differential, are not we considering the same thing twice?

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Have a look at, for example, Hyperphysics article on inductance.

Yes you are using the number of turns twice (I'm not sure what N and n are) for exactly the reason you say: the flux depends on the number of turns and the emf depends on the number of turns x rate of change of flux, so inductance is proportional to turns2.
 
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