Is the Expectation Value Always 1 for Normalized State Vectors?

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Homework Statement



|O> = k |R1> + 1/9 |R2>

a) Find k if |O> has already been normalized, and b) then the expectation value.

The Attempt at a Solution


a)
To Normalise:
|(|O>)|2 = (1/9 |R2> + k |R1>).(1/9 |R2> - k|R1>) = 1/81|R2>2 - k2|R1>2 = 1

I just assumed that |k| = (1-(1/81))0.5, but I can't justify why. Is this answer correct?

b)
Expectation value:
Operator A of the system D

<D|A|D> = ∫D*AD dt = is the expectation value, where:

A|n> = λn|n>
|D> = Σ Cn |Qn>
<D| = Σ Cn* <Qn|

So: <D|A|D> = Σ |Cn|2 λn

So in the case of O:
<O|A|O> = ΣΣ [(1/9<R2| - k<R1|).A.(1/9|R2> + k|R1>)]
= ΣΣ[(1/81<R2|R2> + k/9<R2|R1> - k/9<R1|R2> - k2<R1|R1>)].A
= ? Help
 
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Ok, so I'm fairly sure that the value of k = \sqrt{1 - (1/9)^2} = \sqrt{80/81}
Tricky part now is the expectation value:<A> = \sum |Cn|2 an = |C1|2 a1 + |C2|2 a2

I'm told that the corresponding eigenvalues are +1 and -1.

So <A>= |1/9|2 (+1) - |(80/81|(-1) = 81/81 = 1 ?

So for a normalised state vector, the expectation value will always be 1 for these eigenvalues? Or have I done something wrong?
 
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