Is This How Projectile Motion Is Described Using Differential Equations?

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The discussion focuses on the correct formulation of projectile motion using differential equations. Initial equations presented were criticized for not clearly defining variables and incorrectly using "g." The proper representation should include initial velocities as variables, such as v_{0,y} and v_{0,x}, to generalize the description. The importance of clarity in defining terms and units in physics equations is emphasized. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for precise language in mathematical descriptions of motion.
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I this how you would describe projectile motion in terms of DE's?

\frac{dy}{dt} = 25.0 - gt
\frac{dx}{dt} = 10.0
 
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No. For one, "g" doesn't equal 9.8 in most common choices of units.
 
arildno said:
No. For one, "g" doesn't equal 9.8 in most common choices of units.

Ok, well I changed it to "g". What else is wrong?
 
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Well if your initial velocities (25 and 10) are given in m/s then there's no problem of using 9.8 for g.
 
dav2008 said:
Well if your initial velocities (25 and 10) are given in m/s then there's no problem of using 9.8 for g.

That's what I intended.
 
cscott said:
I this how you would describe projectile motion in terms of DE's?

\frac{dy}{dt} = 25.0 - gt
\frac{dx}{dt} = 10.0
Consider your actual question. Nowhere did you state what 25.0 or 10.0 represent, and you wanted an answer for a GENERAL description of projectile motion in terms of D.E.
Thus, you ought to have written something like:

\frac{dy}{dt} = v_{0,y} - gt
\frac{dx}{dt} = v_{0,x}
where x(t), y(t) are horizontal and vertical positions as functions of time t, \vec{v}_{0}=(v_{0,x},v_{0,y}) is the initial velocity, and "g" is the acceleration due to gravity.

If you had written it as that, your equations would have been proper to your question.
 
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