Kepler's Law: Error Analysis & Mass of Earth

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around Kepler's laws of planetary motion, specifically focusing on error analysis related to the period of orbit and the semi-major axis, as well as calculating the mass of Earth based on the moon's orbit. The scope includes theoretical understanding and mathematical reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a 10% error in the period of orbit ("p") or the semi-major axis ("a") would produce a larger error, suggesting that the period might have a greater impact on the position of the planet.
  • Another participant explains Kepler's third law, stating that the period squared is proportional to the semi-major axis cubed, and poses a comparison of the effects of 10% errors in both values.
  • A formula for calculating the mass of Earth based on the moon's orbit is provided, with a participant noting the relationship between the variables involved.
  • A clarification is made regarding Kepler's statement about the relationship between the period squared and the semi-major axis cubed, emphasizing the proportionality rather than equality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of errors in the period versus the semi-major axis, and while there is some agreement on the application of Kepler's laws, the discussion does not reach a consensus on the implications of the error analysis.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not specify the assumptions underlying their calculations or the definitions of terms used, which may affect the interpretation of the results. The discussion also lacks resolution on the specific impacts of the errors discussed.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying astronomy or physics, particularly those interested in orbital mechanics and error analysis in measurements.

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hello everyone,
I have a couple of questions from my astonomy course that are confusing me.
1. Which do you think would cause the larger error: a 10% error in "p" (period of orbit) or "a" (length of semi-major axis in units)? I would think that the "p" would produce the larger error, because it could alter the position of planet. Is that right?

2. The orbit of Earth's moon has a period of 27.3 days and a radius (semi-major axis) of 2.56 x 10^-3 A.U. (=3.84 x 10^5 km). What is the mass of Earth? What are the units? Show your work?


I'm not sure which formula to use, can anyone give me some pointers?
Thanks a bunch.
 
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Both your questions involve Kepler's third law of planetary motion.

1) Kepler's third law states that the period squared is proportional to the semi-major axis cubed. If you take 10% of any value and square it, then take 10% of that same value and cube it, which number is bigger? For example, let's assume your arbitrary value is 100 (forget units). Ten percent of 100 is 10. Compare 10-squared to 10-cubed. Which is larger?

2) This is a simple "plug-and-chug" problem. Use the general equation of Kepler's third law (it should be in your textbook), plug in the numbers you are given and plug in the constants to solve for your one unknown value. The variables in the equation are the period p, the semi-major axis a, the mass of the moon m, and the mass of the Earth M. You can look up the values for the gravitational constant G and pi. Solve for M.
 
I see where you going...
P^2 = a ^3
Comparing 10-squared to 10-cubed. Cubed would be greater. Thanks

M=4pi^2a^3 / P^2G

Thanks a lot. It seems so simple now.
 
Just to note that Kepler didn't say the period squared and the semi-major axis cubed were equal. He said they were proportional.
 

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