Kinematics Problem with Rockets

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving a rocket's position as a function of time, modeled by a specific equation. Participants are tasked with finding the velocity and acceleration of the rocket, as well as determining the time at which the rocket reaches a certain height.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the first and second derivatives of the position function Y(t) but encounters issues with acceptance on a web platform. They also seek to find the time when the rocket reaches a height of 4RE.
  • Some participants question the interpretation of the 'g' term in the equation, seeking clarification on its formatting.
  • Others suggest that the original poster's derivative may be correct but could be simplified differently, noting potential discrepancies in their calculations.
  • There is a request for the original poster to explain how they arrived at their calculated time for y = 4RE, as another participant finds a different result.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's attempts and questioning specific aspects of the problem. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the derivatives and the interpretation of the equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating a complex expression and dealing with potential issues related to the web platform's acceptance of their answers. There is an emphasis on ensuring clarity in the mathematical expressions used in the problem.

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Homework Statement


In Example 2.6, we considered a simple model for a rocket launched from the surface of the Earth. A better expression for a rocket's position measured from the center of the Earth is given by
Y(t)=(RE3/2+3(√g/2)REt)2/3
where RE is the radius of the Earth (6.38 ✕ 106 m) and g is the constant acceleration of an object in free fall near the Earth's surface (9.81 m/s2).

Find Vy(t) and ay(t) using variables not numerical values.

Then what is t when y=4RE
Lastly find V and a at t = y @ 4RE2. The attempt at a solution
Naturally I found the first and second derivative of Y(t), which were not accepted by webassign (not correct nor incorrect). Then being stumped by that I decided to find t when y = 4RE, which also gave me an incorrect answer.

I got Y'(t)=2/3(RE3/2+3√(g/2)REt)(-1/3)(3√(g/2)RE
Y"(t)=-2/9(RE3/2+3√(g/2)REt)(-4/3)(3√(g/2)RE

I also found a t value of 9.5947 when y = 4RE, this was found by just plugging in all the values in Y(t).

I know I just posted a problem a day or to ago, but I've been beaten by this one aswell. Any advice on how to go about this would be a great help. Thank you.
 
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In your Y(t) equation, is the 'g' term: ##\frac{\sqrt{g}}{2}## or ##\sqrt{\frac{g}{2}}## ?
 
gneill said:
In your Y(t) equation, is the 'g' term: ##\frac{\sqrt{g}}{2}## or ##\sqrt{\frac{g}{2}}## ?

##\sqrt{\frac{g}{2}}##

Sorry I'm still figuring out formatting on here.
 
Your first derivative looks okay to me. Unfortunately. with complex expressions like this there are usually several ways to "simplify" it, and webassign may not recognize the one you've reached. It looks to me that the 3's in your expression could cancel, for example.

I can't seem to make your second derivative match what I find. So maybe you'll need to revisit that.

You'll have to show how you arrived at t = 9.5947 s for y = 4RE. When I plug in that value for t I get just over 1 RE.
 

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