Lorentz Transformation with Two Moving Frames

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The discussion focuses on the Lorentz Transformation involving two frames of reference, specifically a particle moving downward at 0.98c and a tower moving upward at the same speed. The key equations discussed include Δx=γ(Δx′+vΔt′) and Δt=γ(Δt′+vΔx′/c²), which are essential for calculating apparent heights and times in relativistic contexts. Participants emphasized the importance of understanding the correct reference frames and the relativistic addition of velocities, rather than applying Galilean transformations. The conclusion is that the relative speed between the particle and the tower must be calculated using special relativity principles, not simple addition.

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Homework Statement


Essentially, a particle is moving downward from the top of a tower at 0.98c, and the tower is moving up at 0.98c. I am to find the apparent height of the tower from the perspective of the particle


Homework Equations


Δx=γ(Δx′+vΔt′)

Δt=γ(Δt′+vΔx′/c2)


Δx′=γ(Δx−vΔt)

Δt′=γ(Δt−vΔx/c2)


The Attempt at a Solution



I've tried to solve multiple ways and I think I just am getting the concept wrong and could use a hint-

Essentially I figured if both frames are moving at .98c, then the apparent movement of the particle would be 2(.98c) if the tower frame would be fixed, and that I could solve it as a Galilean. The way I was told to solve it was by modifying the Lorentz formulae and frankly I'm having a brain fart figuring out my frames. I was also told c cannot be over 1, which made my original method not work.
 
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So in the question, they are saying that in some reference frame the particle is moving down at 0.98c and the tower is moving up at 0.98c.

Or are they saying that in the tower's reference frame the particle is moving down at 0.98c and in the particle's reference frame, the tower is moving up at 0.98c?

If it is the second case, then obviously the relative speed between the tower and the particle is 0.98c.

If it is the first case, the velocities do not add so simply as you assumed. So it would not be 2(.98c). You need to use the equation for addition of velocities in special relativity.
 

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