Magnetic field within cylinder using Ampere's Law

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The discussion focuses on using Ampere's Law to demonstrate that the magnetic field strength inside a cylinder with a constant current density j is given by B = (mu-nought)*j*r/2. Participants clarify that the magnetic field is directed in the theta-hat direction, while components in the r-hat and z-hat directions should be zero. One user successfully proves the absence of the r-hat component using a closed cylinder and the principle that the flux through its surface is zero. However, they seek guidance on proving the absence of the z-hat component, leading to suggestions about using a rectangular surface to analyze the circulation of the magnetic field. The conversation emphasizes the distinction between applying Ampere's Law and Gauss's Law in this context.
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Homework Statement



Using Ampere's law, show that the magnetic field strength in a region within a cylinder, which has a constant current density j (flowing in the direction parallel to its axis), is equal to

B = (mu-nought)*j*r/2

The Attempt at a Solution



It doesn't say specifically, but this is the field in the theta-hat direction - i.e. in the direction of the cylinder's axis of rotation. I can prove this easily and the actual question isn't the problem. I'm assuming that this question means I have to show that the magnetic field in the r-hat direction (radially outwards) and the z-hat direction (in the direction of the current flow) are both zero.

I can prove there is no component in the r-hat direction by taking an imaginary cylinder, placing it within and using the fact that the flux through the cylinders surface is always equal to zero.

However, how do I prove that there is no component in the z-hat direction? Any help/hints appreciated.
 
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Silversonic said:
I can prove there is no component in the r-hat direction by taking an imaginary cylinder, placing it within and using the fact that the flux through the cylinders surface is always equal to zero.

However, how do I prove that there is no component in the z-hat direction? Any help/hints appreciated.

Did you try using the same reasoning? That is, finding a surface that would allow to calculate the circulation of z - component of the field?
 
Inna said:
Did you try using the same reasoning? That is, finding a surface that would allow to calculate the circulation of z - component of the field?

What surface would I use? If I use a cylinder, that only tells me that the flux in the z-hat direction through one end is equal and opposite to the flux in the z-hat direction flowing through the other end - but it doesn't tell me that the magnetic field for that component is zero, only that the sum of the two fluxes flowing through the ends sums to zero.
 
Wait - it seems like you are using a Gauss law instead of Ampere's law. You need a circulation of B-field around the boundary of your surface. It will be proportional to the current going through the surface.
 
Inna said:
Wait - it seems like you are using a Gauss law instead of Ampere's law. You need a circulation of B-field around the boundary of your surface. It will be proportional to the current going through the surface.

I used Ampere's law to find the direction of the field in the theta-hat direction, I haven't touched Gauss' law at all.

I used the fact that \intB.dS = 0, using a closed cylinder, to show that it is zero in the r-hat direction, but can't prove it for the z-hat direction.
 
Try a rectangle with one side placed inside the cylinder, parallel to the z-axis, and the opposite side outside of the cylinder.
 
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