Challenge Math Challenge - June 2020

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The discussion focuses on a series of mathematical challenges, primarily involving advanced topics such as linear maps between Hilbert spaces, properties of matrices, and integrals. Key problems include demonstrating the continuity of linear maps, proving the existence of common eigenvectors for certain matrices, and evaluating complex integrals. Participants engage in solving these problems, providing insights into techniques and proofs, including the use of series expansions and properties of logarithms in complex analysis. The thread showcases a collaborative effort to tackle complex mathematical concepts and encourages the application of various mathematical principles.
  • #121
PeroK said:
[...]
This generates an infinite sequence of distinct eigenvalues, unless for some ##k## we have:
$$v_{k+1} = [B + \frac {\lambda_k \alpha}{\beta}I]v_k = 0$$ In which case, ##v_k## is a common eigenvector of ##A## and ##B + \frac {\lambda_k\, \alpha}{\beta}I##, hence also an eigenvector of ##B##.
A very minor improvement is that the equation above implies immediately that ##v_k## is an eigenvector of ##B## with eigenvalue ##-\lambda_k\, \alpha/\beta~## .

I'd been thinking along related lines, but my logic was a bit different. In your terminology, we have $$A v_2 ~=~ (\lambda_1 + \beta) v_2 ~.$$ If ##A## does NOT have a (nonzero) eigenvector with that eigenvalue, then the only solution is ##v_2 = 0##, hence $$B v_1 = -\lambda_1 \alpha/\beta \; v_1$$ so ##v_1## is an eigenvector of ##B##.

Else, we act again with ##(B + \lambda_1 \alpha/\beta)## on ##v_2##, giving a ##v_3## with a different constant, and we can apply the same reasoning as in the previous paragraph. This algorithm must terminate because an ##n\times n## matrix has at most ##n## eigenvalues.
 
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  • #122
Nice work to @PeroK and @strangerep! I think this completely covers that case that ##(\alpha,\beta)\neq (0,0)##. Since the case ##AB=BA## is well-known, I'll count this as a solution.
 
  • #123
Infrared said:
[...] I'll count this as a solution [to Q2].
Phew. Now I need to make some progress on Samalkhaiat's challenge #001 (since it looks like nobody else is having a go?). But I need to review some relativistic elasticity theory first.
 
  • #124
strangerep said:
Thank you to @Infrared for posing this question.

Hi, strangerep. Great solutions. But I still have a problem.

I do not understand this statement
the vector ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## must be a multiple of an ##A##-eigenvector

Why ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## must be a multiple of an ##A##-eigenvector?
 
  • #125
Haorong Wu said:
Why ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## must be a multiple of an ##A##-eigenvector?

It was shown that:
$$A(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle = (a + \beta)(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle$$
And that is the condition for ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## to be an eigenvector of ##A## with eigenvalue ##a + \beta##.

It may be even clearer if we let ##v = (B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle##, then it was shown that:
$$Av = (a + \beta)v$$
And we see that ##v## is indeed an eigenvector of ##A##.
 
  • #126
PeroK said:
It was shown that:
$$A(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle = (a + \beta)(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle$$
And that is the condition for ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## to be an eigenvector of ##A## with eigenvalue ##a + \beta##.

It may be even clearer if we let ##v = (B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle##, then it was shown that:
$$Av = (a + \beta)v$$
And we see that ##v## is indeed an eigenvector of ##A##.
Thanks, PeroK.

I can see ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## is an eigenvector of ##A##. But, in order to let ##\left | a \right >## be an eigenvector of ##B##, ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## must equal to ##\lambda \left | a \right >##. Otherwise, ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle =\left | b \right >## where ##\left |b \right > \neq \left |a \right >## would not give something like ##B \left | a \right > = k \left | a \right > ##.
 
  • #127
Haorong Wu said:
Thanks, PeroK.

I can see ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## is an eigenvector of ##A##. But, in order to let ##\left | a \right >## be an eigenvector of ##B##, ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## must equal to ##\lambda \left | a \right >##. Otherwise, ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle =\left | b \right >## where ##\left |b \right > \neq \left |a \right >## would not give something like ##B \left | a \right > = k \left | a \right > ##.
True. It's an eigenvector of ##A##. It's not necessarily an eigenvector of ##B##.
 
  • #128
fresh_42 said:
Summary:: Normed, Banach and Hilbert spaces, topology, geometry, linear algebra, integration, flux.
Authors: Math_QED (MQ), Infrared (IR), Wrobel (WR), fresh_42 (FR).

Which is the smallest natural number n∈N0 such that there are no integers a,b∈Z with 3a3+b3=n?
So, we have ##3a^3=n−b^3##, that is ##n−b^3\equiv 0\ mod 3##. We know
$$b \equiv 0 \mod 3 \implies -b^3\equiv 0 ~~~~~~~(1) $$

$$b\equiv 1 \mod 3 \implies −b^3 \equiv −1~~~~~~~~~~ (2)$$

$$b\equiv 2\ mod3⟹b^3≡8⟹b^3≡2⟹−b^3≡−2 ~~~~~~~` (3)$$

And we know
$$n\equiv 0\ mod 3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (i)$$

$$n\equiv 1\mod 3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (ii)$$

$$n\equiv 2 \mod 3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~(iii)$$
So, the condition ##n−b^3\equiv 0 \mod 3## can be fulfilled by any ##n## among (i), (ii) and (iii) (if b is allowed to be any integer). Because of this we have to move for inspection (trial and error method).
For ##n=0,1,2,3,4,5## we can easily find solutions. My claim is that the equation ##3a^3+b^3=6## doesn't have any integral solutions.
##{\large PROOF}##
$$b^3 = 6-3a^3$$

$$\implies b^3 \equiv 0 \mod 3$$
@fresh_42 schon seit, ##b^3\equiv 0## ist teilbar durch 3, das heißt$$\frac{b \times b \times b}{3} = M $$

Deshalb, 3 muss teilen b and hence ##b=3k## (I wrote German only for fun purpose not to offend you sir).
Now, substituting this value of b in our original equation we have :
$$3a^3 + 27k^3 = 6 $$

$$9k^3=2−a^3$$

$$⟹2−a^3\equiv 0 \mod 9$$

Let's check if that's possible (in every congruence that follows have modulus 9)

$$a\equiv 0⟹−a^3\equiv 0$$

$$a\equiv 1⟹−a^3\equiv −1$$

$$a \equiv 2 \implies a^3 \equiv 8

\implies -a^3 \equiv -8$$
$$a \equiv 3 \implies a^3 \equiv 27

\implies -a^3 \equiv 0$$

$$ a \equiv 4 \implies a^3 \equiv 64

\implies -a^3 \equiv -1$$

$$a\equiv 5 \implies a^3 \equiv 125

\implies -a^3 \equiv -8 $$

$$a \equiv 6 \implies a^3 \equiv 216

\implies -a^3 \equiv 0$$

$$ a\equiv 7 \implies a^3 \equiv 343

\implies -a^3 \equiv -1$$

$$a \equiv 8 \implies a^3 \equiv 512

\implies-a^3 \equiv -8$$

That is to say, we have only three possibilities for cubic residues:

$$−a^3\equiv 0$$

$$−a^3\equiv−1$$

$$−a^3\equiv−8 $$

And ##2\equiv 2\mod 9##. So, only possibilities:

$$2−a^3\equiv 2\mod 9$$

$$2−a^3\equiv 1\ mod 9$$

$$2−a^3\equiv−6\mod 9$$

Which means ##2−a^3\equiv 0 \mod 9## is not possible, hence there is no integral solution to ##a^3+9k^3=6##, which in turn means that
$$3a^3 +b^3 =6$$ have no integral solution
##{\tiny Maths} ~{\large QED}##
 
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  • #129
Adesh said:
So, we have 3a3=n−b3, that is n−b3≡0mod3. We know
$$
b \equiv 0 \mod 3 \implies -b^3\equiv 0 ~~~~~~~(1) $$
b≡1mod3⟹−b3≡−1 (2)
b≡2mod3⟹b3≡8⟹b3≡2⟹−b3≡−2 (3)
And we know

n≡0mod3 (i)
n≡1mod3 (ii)
$$n\equiv 2 \mod 3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~(iii)
$$
So, the condition n−b3≡0mod3 can be fulfilled by any n among (i), (ii) and (iii) (if b is allowed to be any integer). Because of this we have to move for inspection (trial and error method).

For n=0,1,2,3,4,5 we can easily find solutions. My claim is that the equation 3a3+b3=6 doesn't have any integral solutions.

PROOF:
$$
b^3 = 6-3a^3 \
\implies b^3 \equiv 0 \mod 3
$$
@fresh_42 schon seit, b3−0 ist teilbar durch 3, das heißt
$$
\frac{b \times b \times b}{3} = M $$
Deshalb, 3 muss teilen b and hence b=3k (I wrote German only for fun purpose not to offend you sir).

Now, substituting this value of b in our original equation we have :
$$
3a^3 + 27k^3 = 6 $$
9k3=2−a3
⟹2−a3≡0mod9
Let's check if that's possible
a≡0⟹−a3≡0
a≡1⟹−a3≡−1
$$a \equiv 2 \implies a^3 \equiv 8 \implies
a^3 \equiv 2 \implies -a^3 \equiv -2$$

$$a \equiv 3 \implies a^3 \equiv 27 \implies
-a^3 \equiv 0$$
$$ a \equiv 4 \implies a^3 \equiv 64 \implies
-a^3 \equiv -1$$
$$a\equiv 5 \implies a^3 \equiv 125 \implies
-a^3 \equiv -8 $$
$$a \equiv 6 \implies a^3 \equiv 216 \implies
-a^3 \equiv 0$$
$$ a\equiv 7 \implies a^3 \equiv 343 \implies
-a^3 \equiv -1$$
$$a \equiv 8 \implies a^3 \equiv 512 \implies
-a^3 \equiv -8$$
That is to say, we have only three possibilities for cubic residues:
−a3≡0
−a3≡−1
−a3≡−8
And 2≡2mod9. So, only possibilities:
2−a3≡2mod9
2−a3≡1mod9
2−a3≡−6mod9
Which means 2−a3≡0mod9 is not possible, hence there is no integral solution to a3+9k3=6, which in turn means that
$$
3a^3 +b^3 =6$$ have no integral solution.

##{\tiny Maths_} ~{\large QED}
Can you either edit this properly, or say in words what you mean. I have difficulties to follow your reasoning.
See https://www.physicsforums.com/help/latexhelp/
 
  • #130
fresh_42 said:
Can you either edit this properly, or say in words what you mean. I have difficulties to follow your reasoning.
See https://www.physicsforums.com/help/latexhelp/
I really don't know what happened in actuality, but I have repaired everything.
 
  • #131
Adesh said:
Which part? I write everything in Latex but I really don't know what has happened, I'm surprised.
Everything before
Adesh said:
So, we have 3a3=n−b3, that is n−b3≡0mod3. We know
$$
b \equiv 0 \mod 3 \implies -b^3\equiv 0 ~~~~~~~(1) $$
b≡1mod3⟹−b3≡−1 (2)
b≡2mod3⟹b3≡8⟹b3≡2⟹−b3≡−2 (3)
And we know

n≡0mod3 (i)
n≡1mod3 (ii)
$$n\equiv 2 \mod 3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~(iii)
$$
So, the condition n−b3≡0mod3 can be fulfilled by any n among (i), (ii) and (iii) (if b is allowed to be any integer). Because of this we have to move for inspection (trial and error method).

For n=0,1,2,3,4,5 we can easily find solutions. My claim is that the equation 3a3+b3=6 doesn't have any integral solutions.
here. But this isn't needed, so let's go further.
PROOF:
$$
b^3 = 6-3a^3 \
\implies b^3 \equiv 0 \mod 3
$$
@fresh_42 schon seit, b3−0 ist teilbar durch 3, das heißt
$$
\frac{b \times b \times b}{3} = M $$
Deshalb, 3 muss teilen b and hence b=3k (I wrote German only for fun purpose not to offend you sir).

Now, substituting this value of b in our original equation we have :
$$
3a^3 + 27k^3 = 6 $$
9k3=2−a3
⟹2−a3≡0mod9
Let's check if that's possible
Beside that the LaTeX code is broken, I also don't know what your modules are. You switch between modulo ##3,2,9## so how am I supposed to know which one you mean?
The correct notation is
$$
a \equiv b \mod n \Longleftrightarrow n\,|\,(a-b) \Longleftrightarrow a\equiv b (n)
$$
a≡0⟹−a3≡0
a≡1⟹−a3≡−1
So you need to write ##a\equiv 0 (9)## and ##a\equiv 1 (9)## if nine is the module you mean. However, ##a\equiv 1 (n)## implies ##a^3\equiv 1 (n)## for all ##n\in \mathbb{N} ##. This equals ##-1## only in case ##n=2##. How should I know that you are considering the remainders of division by two?
$$a \equiv 2 \implies a^3 \equiv 8 \implies
a^3 \equiv 2 \implies -a^3 \equiv -2$$

$$a \equiv 3 \implies a^3 \equiv 27 \implies
-a^3 \equiv 0$$
$$ a \equiv 4 \implies a^3 \equiv 64 \implies
-a^3 \equiv -1$$
$$a\equiv 5 \implies a^3 \equiv 125 \implies
-a^3 \equiv -8 $$
$$a \equiv 6 \implies a^3 \equiv 216 \implies
-a^3 \equiv 0$$
$$ a\equiv 7 \implies a^3 \equiv 343 \implies
-a^3 \equiv -1$$
$$a \equiv 8 \implies a^3 \equiv 512 \implies
-a^3 \equiv -8$$
That is to say, we have only three possibilities for cubic residues:
−a3≡0
−a3≡−1
−a3≡−8
And 2≡2mod9. So, only possibilities:
2−a3≡2mod9
2−a3≡1mod9
2−a3≡−6mod9
Which means 2−a3≡0mod9 is not possible, hence there is no integral solution to a3+9k3=6, which in turn means that
$$
3a^3 +b^3 =6$$ have no integral solution.

##{\tiny Maths_} ~{\large QED}
 
  • #132
fresh_42 said:
So you need to write a≡0(9) and a≡1(9) if nine is the module you mean. However, a≡1(n) implies a3≡1(n) for all n∈N. This equals −1 only in case n=2. How should I know that you are considering the remainders of division by two?
(Please tell me why when I quote some post the latex code doesn't get quoted rather the mathematical symbols get copied).

Well, for getting the minus sign I'm using this fact
$$a \equiv b \mod n $$
$$-1 \equiv -1 \mod n$$

Now, multiplying corresponding sides of congruences (multiplication preserves the congruency), so we have
$$
-a \equiv - b \mod n
$$
 
  • #133
Adesh said:
(Please tell me why when I quote some post the latex code doesn't get quoted rather the mathematical symbols get copied).
This is a bug when you use "quote".
Well, for getting the minus sign I'm using this fact
$$a \equiv b \mod n $$
$$-1 \equiv -1 \mod n$$

Now, multiplying corresponding sides of congruences (multiplication preserves the congruency), so we have
$$
-a \equiv - b \mod n
$$
Sorry, I've overseen the minus sign. But this doesn't change the fact that you need to note the module with every ##\equiv## sign.
 
  • #134
fresh_42 said:
This is a bug when you use "quote".

Sorry, I've overseen the minus sign. But this doesn't change the fact that you need to note the module with every ##\equiv## sign.
I have made corresponding repairs in my solution, sorry for disturbance caused.
 
  • #135
Adesh said:
Let's check if that's possible (in every congruence that follows have modulus 9)

$$a\equiv 0⟹−a^3\equiv 0$$

$$a\equiv 1⟹−a^3\equiv −1$$

$$a \equiv 2 \implies a^3 \equiv 8

\implies a^3 \equiv 2 \implies -a^3 \equiv -2$$
If ##a^3\equiv 8 (9)## then ##a^3 \not\equiv 2 (9)##.

Hint: From ##2=a^3+9k^3## continue by considering the equation modulo ##3##. This is shorter and easier.
 
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  • #136
fresh_42 said:
If ##a^3\equiv 8 (9)## then ##a^3 \not\equiv 2 (9)##.

Hint: From ##2=a^3+9k^3## continue by considering the equation modulo ##3##. This is shorter and easier.
I'm editing my post every time you're pointing out an error, is that okay or should I consider reposting?

I will surely solve it by your hint also.
 
  • #137
Adesh said:
I'm editing my post every time you're pointing out an error, is that okay or should I consider reposting?

I will surely solve it my your hint also.
Repost it. That's better.
You were here:

Assume there is a solution ##6=3a^3+b^3.##
Then ##0\equiv b^3 \,(3)## and ##b=3k##, i.e. ##6=3a^3+27k^3## or ##2=a^3+9k^3##.
This means ##a^3\equiv 2\,(3)##.

Now go ahead and examine how ##a## must look like so that is possible.
 
  • #138
fresh_42 said:
Now go ahead and examine how a must look like so that is possible.
I get ##a^3 = 3m +2##.
 
  • #139
Adesh said:
I get ##a^3 = 3m +2##.
Yes, but which ##a## have this shape? ##a## cannot be divisible by three, can it have the remainder ##1## by division by ##3##?
 
  • #140
fresh_42 said:
Yes, but which ##a## have this shape? ##a## cannot be divisible by three, can it have the remainder ##1## by division by ##3##?
$$a^3 \equiv 2 \mod 3$$
$$ 8\equiv 2 \mod 3$$
By Symmetry we have
$$ a^3 \equiv 2^3 \mod 3$$
$$ a \equiv 2 \mod 3$$
That is to say, ##a = 3k +2 ##.
 
  • #141
Adesh said:
$$a^3 \equiv 2 \mod 3$$
$$ 8\equiv 2 \mod 3$$
By Symmetry transitivity we have
$$ a^3 \equiv 2^3 \mod 3$$
$$ a \equiv 2 \mod 3$$
Why is this? E.g. ##5^3 \equiv 2^3 \mod 13## but ##5\not\equiv 2 \mod 13##.
You cannot take the root in general. Why is it true here?
That is to say, ##a = 3k +2 ##.
And now you can go back: Take ##a^3=(3m+2)^3= \ldots## and consider it modulo ##9##.
Btw., you shouldn't take the same letter (##k##) for two different numbers. We already used ##k##.
 
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  • #142
Haorong Wu said:
I do not understand this statement
strangerep said:
the vector ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## must be a multiple of an ##A##-eigenvector

Why ##(B+ a\alpha/\beta) |a\rangle## must be a multiple of an ##A##-eigenvector?
The paragraph in which I wrote the above was misleading at best, so I will go back a put a strike through it.

I suggest you ignore that paragraph and proceed directly to the 2nd part of the solution given first by PeroK, and later by me in a different form.
 
  • #143
strangerep said:
The paragraph in which I wrote the above was misleading at best, so I will go back a put a strike through it.

I suggest you ignore that paragraph and proceed directly to the 2nd part of the solution given first by PeroK, and later by me in a different form.

Thanks, strangerep.
 
  • #144
fresh_42 said:
Why is this? E.g. ##5^3 \equiv 2^3 \mod 13## but ##5\not\equiv 2 \mod 13##.
You cannot take the root in general. Why is it true here?

And now you can go back: Take ##a^3=(3m+2)^3= \ldots## and consider it modulo ##9##.
Btw., you shouldn't take the same letter (##k##) for two different numbers. We already used ##k##.
Okay Herr,
$$ a^3 \equiv 2^3 \mod 3 ~~~~~(1) $$
$$a \equiv 2 \mod 3 ~~~~~~~ (2)$$
(1) is given and (2) is possible, knowing that if (2) is given we can get (1), therefore (I’m not taking cubic root, I just reasoned it out, maybe not very nicely)
$$ a \equiv 2 \mod 3$$
So, for an integer ##t## we have ##a = 3t +2 ##. Plugging this value in the Eqaution
$$ a^3 = 2-9m^3 $$
We get
$$ 27 t^3 +8 + 54t^2 +36t = 2-9m^3$$
$$27t^3 +6 +54t^2 +36t =-9m^3$$
Well, that means
$$ 27t^3 + 54t^2 +36t +6 \equiv 0 \mod 9$$
$$ 27t^3 +54t^2 +36t \equiv -6 \mod 9$$
But we know that ##27t^3 +54t^2 +36t \equiv 0 \mod 9##, hence the contradiction and therefore the equation doesn’t have any integral solution.
 
  • #145
Adesh said:
Okay Herr,
$$ a^3 \equiv 2^3 \mod 3 ~~~~~(1) $$
$$a \equiv 2 \mod 3 ~~~~~~~ (2)$$
(1) is given and (2) is possible, knowing that if (2) is given we can get (1), therefore (I’m not taking cubic root, I just reasoned it out, maybe not very nicely)
This is not logical. The fact that ##a\equiv 2\mod 3## is possible, does not mean that it is true. You have to consider the possible cases! There are only three possible cases modulo ##3##, the remainders ##0,1,2##. Hence you can check them:
Case ##1##: if ##a\equiv 0 \mod 3 \text{ then } a^3 \equiv ... \mod 3##
Case ##2##: if ##a\equiv 1 \mod 3 \text{ then } a^3 \equiv ... \mod 3##
Case ##3##: if ##a\equiv 2 \mod 3 \text{ then } a^3 \equiv ... \mod 3##

The rest is ok, although a bit lengthy. From ##27t^3+ 8+54t^2+36t=2-9m^3## you can directly conclude ##8\equiv 2 \mod 9## which is the desired contradiction.
 
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  • #146
Some thoughts, but potentially a dead-end. Don't know how to make use of completeness of X.
Let A:X\to Y be linear. Assume
<br /> B:Y&#039;\to X&#039;,\quad g\mapsto g\circ A<br />
is well-defined. Take x_n\in X,n\in\mathbb N, such that x_n\to 0. Fix g\in Y&#039;, then
<br /> (Bg)(x_n) = g(Ax_n),\quad n\in\mathbb N.<br />
Since g\circ A is bounded, we have |g(Ax_n)| \leq M_g\|x_n\|\to 0. Thus
<br /> \forall g\in Y&#039;,\quad \lim g(Ax_n) = 0.<br />
If \lim Ax_n exists, then we can switch \lim and g. Since g is arbitrary, it must hold that \lim Ax_n = 0. Thus, A would be continuous at 0. Equivalently, A would be bounded.

..but why would \lim Ax_n have to exist?
 
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  • #147
Is it time to give a hint?
 
  • #148
It is time I guess.

THEOREM. A subset of a normed space is bounded iff it is weakly bounded.

Consider problems 1, 9 in this light
 
  • #149
I hope I have the definition right. A\subseteq X of a normed space is weakly bounded if \sup _{x\in A} |x^*(x)|&lt;\infty for every x^* \in X^*.
So, we could show \{Ax \mid x\in X\}\subseteq Y is bounded. Fix g\in Y&#039;, then
<br /> \sup _{x\in X} |g(Ax)| &lt; \infty<br />
because by assumption Y&#039;\to X&#039;,\ g\mapsto g\circ A, is well-defined i.e g\circ A is bounded.

But this is not right. \|Ax\| \leq K doesn't imply \|Ax\| \leq L\|x\|.
I am short-circuiting. Something somewhere is false. My functional analysis is a pile of garbage..
 
  • #150
nuuskur said:
My functional analysis is a pile of garbage..
Heh, I once heard a description of FA as being a "pile of abstract nonsense". :olduhh:
 

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