Moment of inertia of a hollow cylinder derivation

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The discussion revolves around deriving the moment of inertia for a hollow cylinder with specified inner and outer radii, as well as mass. Participants are exploring the expression for differential volume in the context of this derivation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the expression for differential volume, questioning the rationale behind using the formula for a thin ring rather than the volume of a full cylinder. There is an attempt to clarify the shape of the differential volume element and its implications for the overall volume calculation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have acknowledged the shape of the differential volume as a thin ring and have suggested that understanding this concept is crucial for setting up the integration correctly. There is an indication that exploring the volume of the hollow cylinder could serve as a preliminary exercise before proceeding with the moment of inertia calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment that requires them to derive the moment of inertia without providing complete solutions. There is an emphasis on understanding the setup of the problem and the definitions involved.

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Homework Statement


Show that a hollow cylinder of radius R_1, outer radius R_2, and mass M, is I=1/2M(R_1^2+R_2^2) if the rotation axis is through the center along the axis of symmetry.

Homework Equations



$$dm = \rho dV$$
$$dV = (2 \pi R)(dR)(h)$$

The Attempt at a Solution



I was mainly confused about why dV is expressed as (2piR)(dR)(h) since the Volume of a cylinder is 2pir^2h. I know that the variable of integration is R so there has to be a dR in there somewhere, but I'm having trouble understanding the rationale.
 
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Carpetfizz said:

Homework Statement


Show that a hollow cylinder of radius R_1, outer radius R_2, and mass M, is I=1/2M(R_1^2+R_2^2) if the rotation axis is through the center along the axis of symmetry.

Homework Equations



$$dm = \rho dV$$
$$dV = (2 \pi R)(dR)(h)$$

The Attempt at a Solution



I was mainly confused about why dV is expressed as (2piR)(dR)(h) since the Volume of a cylinder is 2pir^2h. I know that the variable of integration is R so there has to be a dR in there somewhere, but I'm having trouble understanding the rationale.

##dV## is not a cylinder. It is a small piece of a cylinder. Can you see what shape it is?
 
It's a thin ring, sorry.
 
Carpetfizz said:
It's a thin ring, sorry.

It has length ##h##, so it is effectively a thin hollow cylinder. Using this ##dV## would be one way to show that the volume of a cylinder is ##\pi R^2 h##. You could also use this to get the volume of your hollow cylinder.

You could try that as a preliminary exercise before you do the MoI calculation. I find that can be a useful test that you've set up your integration properly, as you know the answer in advance.
 

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