Motion 2 problems - Tossing hay bales and baseballs

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The discussion revolves around two motion problems involving projectile motion: one concerning a hay-baling machine that launches bundles of hay vertically and horizontally, and the other involving a baseball that is hit and caught after a certain time and distance. The participants are exploring the physics of motion, particularly the relationships between vertical and horizontal components of velocity and the equations of motion.

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to solve for initial velocities and angles. There is an attempt to relate vertical motion to maximum height and to understand the components of velocity (vx and vy) in the context of projectile motion. Some participants question how to effectively apply the equations given the parameters of the problems.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the equations and the relationships between different variables. Some guidance has been provided regarding the vertical motion and the use of initial velocity components, but there is no explicit consensus on the methods to be used or the correct approach to the problems.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide to one another. There is an emphasis on understanding the physics concepts rather than simply arriving at the answers.

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Motion 2 problems -- Tossing hay bales and baseballs

Homework Statement


1. A hay-baling machine throws each finished bundle of hay 2.0 m up in the air so it can land on a trailer waiting 4.7 m behind the machine.

(a) What must be the speed with which the bundles are launched?

2. A baseball is popped up, remaining aloft for 6.3 s before being caught at a horizontal distance of 83 m from the starting point. What was the launch angle?





Homework Equations


1. x = 1/2at^2 +volt +x0
x-xo = d

2. vx = cos*vo
vy = sin*vo


The Attempt at a Solution


1. I used the distance and plugged it into the first equation but it is the wrong answer I believe.
2. I know that in the end I have to divdide vy by vx and take the arctan of that but I do not understand how to find vy and vx. Can someone explain to me step by and step and what that means?
 
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blackraven said:

The Attempt at a Solution


1. I used the distance and plugged it into the first equation but it is the wrong answer I believe.
2. I know that in the end I have to divdide vy by vx and take the arctan of that but I do not understand how to find vy and vx. Can someone explain to me step by and step and what that means?

Let's first talk about the vertical motion. At the maximum height, velocity is zero. Initially, the vertical velocity is vsinθ (a component of the initial velocity making an angle θ with the ground). You have initial velocity, final velocity, displacement and the acceleration.
Can you form an equation now?
 


This is going to sound like weird advice, but you're not thinking about the problem right. Don't think "I know that in the end I have to..." Just work through it.

Your equations are sound. Let's start with this: you know the maximum height right? What can you find with that if you know the acceleration of gravity?
 


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Homework Equations


1. x = 1/2at^2 +volt +x0
x-xo = d

2. vx = cos*vo
vy = sin*vo



ISEE Method

1. Identify
a) Only one object - the hay bale
b) The object doing 2 works. Going in horizontal and verical motion.

2. Select
y=y0+vy0ty+(1/2)ayty2
x=x0+vx0tx+(1/2)axtx2

Since it involves only one object,
ty=tx

3. Execute
4. Evaluate
 
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