Acceleration of block 1 in a pulley system

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The discussion focuses on calculating the acceleration of block 1 in a pulley system with block 1 weighing 2kg and block 2 weighing 4kg, while ignoring friction and pulley mass. The user attempts to derive the acceleration using free body diagrams and equations of motion, concluding with an acceleration of 13.06 m/s² for block 1 and 6.53 m/s² for block 2. However, the expected answer is 4.4 m/s², leading to confusion about the relationship between the accelerations of the two blocks. The user affirms that if block 1 moves a distance "d," block 2 moves only d/2 due to the pulley setup, reinforcing the belief that a1 = 2a2. Ultimately, the user seeks clarification on their calculations and the correct relationship between the accelerations.
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Homework Statement


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Find acceleration of block 1, knowing that the mass of block 1 is 2kg and of block 2 is 4kg. You may ignore friction and pulley mass.

Homework Equations



Fr = ma

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I Drew free body diagrams to block 1, 2 and the pulley, then made the equations:
<br /> \\<br /> \sum F_{r2} = m_2a_2\\<br /> P_2 - T_2 = m_2a_2\\<br /> \\<br /> \sum F_{rpulley} = m_{pulley}*a\\<br /> 2T_2 = T_1\\<br /> \\<br /> \sum F_{1}=m_1a_1\\<br /> T_1=m_1a_1\rightarrow T_2 = \frac{m_1a_1}{2}<br /> <br /> \\\\a_1=2a_2 \rightarrow T_2=\frac{m_1(2a_2)}{2} = m_1a_2<br /> <br /> \\(Substituting\ in \ first\ equation)\\<br /> P_2-(m_1a_2)= m_2a_2\\<br /> a_2(m_2+m_1) = m_2*g\\\\<br /> a_2=\frac{m_2g}{m_2+m_1} = 6.53\frac{m}{s^2}\rightarrow a_1 = 13.06\frac{m}{s^2}<br />
The answer, however, is supposed to be 4.4 m/s²


Thanks in advance!
 
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Is ##a_1 = 2 a_2## true?
 
Well, I think it is, isn't it?

If 1 moves a distance "d", 2 will move only d/2 because the rope has to run on both sides of the pulley.
 
ShizukaSm said:
Well, I think it is, isn't it?

If 1 moves a distance "d", 2 will move only d/2 because the rope has to run on both sides of the pulley.

On the other hand, if 1 moves a distance "d", the pulley "takes" a length "d" of rope from both sides of the pulley. This rope can only come from the free end holding m2.

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Wow, that... that makes a lot of sense, so in fact a1 = 2a2

Thanks a lot, gneill!
 
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