Multiple diode circuit analysis

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the analysis of circuits containing multiple diodes, focusing on methods for determining the states of the diodes and solving the circuit. Participants explore various approaches to handle the complexity that arises from multiple diode states, particularly in passive circuits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a method of initially assuming all diodes are conducting and replacing them with a 0.7V drop, then forming a new circuit based on the results of the first assumption.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial approach but emphasizes the need to create additional circuits based on findings from previous steps, particularly if the second circuit does not yield a solution.
  • A different participant expresses confidence that the second step would yield the correct diode states, indicating a belief in the sufficiency of their method.
  • Another participant warns that results must be checked after the second step, citing examples where initial conclusions about diode states may not hold true upon further analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of the proposed methods. While some express confidence in their approaches, others highlight potential pitfalls and the need for verification, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty regarding the best strategy for analyzing multiple diode circuits.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the complexity of the circuit increases with the number of diodes, leading to a combinatorial explosion of possible states. There are also mentions of specific circuit configurations that may lead to unexpected results, such as diodes being partially on or off.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners dealing with circuit analysis, particularly those interested in diode behavior in complex circuits and methods for systematically solving such problems.

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It is well known that in order to solve diode circuits we must assume state of diodes, replace diodes with appropriate model (0.7V voltage drop) and solve circuit. Then we check result and if it agrees with initial assumption, we successfully solved our circuit.
If we mark number of diodes in circuit with n, there will be 2^n possible combinations of diode states. What to do in situation with 5 diodes, for example? You will agree that it will be quite impossible to check all combinations.
I was trying to find easiest way to solve multiple diodes circuits so I came up with this idea: I assume that all diodes in circuit are conducting so I replace all of them with 0.7V voltage drop and solve that circuit. Then I form another circuit which consist of 0.7V voltage drops instead of diodes for which I proved that conduct in previous step and open circuit for diodes I proved that doesn't conduct in previous step. Then I solve that circuit. Does my idea make sense? :)
 
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Sure.

And if your second circuit doesn't work out, create a third with corrections based on what you discovered in the second. Continue until you have a solution - but watch what you are doing.

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as long as you're dealing with passive circuits, I can't find a problem case that's any worse than trying all combinations.

Clearly, if you end up going back and forth between two combinations, you need to replace your simple 0.7V or nothing with a different model.
 
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I thought that second step would be last step and there will be no more solutions since I found right diode states in first step. I will analyse your example. Thanks for reply!
 
I will upload one example which I solved to ilustrate my method.
 
WP_000995.jpg

You can see here that everything is completed in second step.
 
You need to check the results after the second step.
There are cases where they won't check. For example, in the circuit below, you would conclude that the diodes are both off. But on checking you would turn one of them back on again. In fact, they're probably both partially on.

----- Edit to provide a better example.
Code:
           ┌──Diode──┬──Diode──┐
+1V ──1KΩ──┤         │         ├─ Gnd
           └───1MΩ───┴──100KΩ──┘
 
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