Need help deducing the region for this double integration problem

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The discussion focuses on converting the double integral of the function \(f(x, y) = \frac{\ln(x^2 + y^2)}{\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}}\) over the region defined by the inequalities \(1 \leq x^2 + y^2 \leq e\). Participants clarify that this region corresponds to a circular annulus in the first quadrant, with the radial coordinate \(r\) ranging from 1 to \(\sqrt{e}\). The conversation highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the inequalities and suggests using tools like GeoGebra for visualizing such regions.

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Not sure how to use latex formatting for the question so I have moved it to the main body ....
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\begin{array}{c}
1 \leq x^{2}+y^{2} \leq e \\
1 \leq x^{2} \leq e \quad 1 \leq y^{2} \leq e \\
1 \leq x \leq \sqrt{e} \quad 1 \leq y \leq \sqrt{e} \\
x=1 \\
x=\sqrt{e}
\end{array}

*Similarly for y which gives a rectangular region in the first quadrant.
Converting to a polar integral : Integrate ##\(f(x, y)=\) \(\left[\ln \left(x^{2}+y^{2}\right)\right] / \sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}\)## over the region ##\(1 \leq x^{2}+y^{2} \leq e\)##

So,

\begin{array}{c}
1 \leq x^{2}+y^{2} \leq e \\
1 \leq x^{2} \leq e \quad 1 \leq y^{2} \leq e \\
1 \leq x \leq \sqrt{e} \quad 1 \leq y \leq \sqrt{e} \\
x=1 \\
x=\sqrt{e}
\end{array}

*Similarly for y which gives a rectangular region in the first quadrant.

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Is the above simplification the correct way to proceed?
 
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What is the shape described by ##x^2 + y^2 = 1##? And what about ##x^2 + y^2 =e##?
 
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etotheipi said:
What is the shape described by ##x^2 + y^2 = 1##? And what about ##x^2 + y^2 =e##?
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Oof! Didn't think of it that way, not sure why I made the inference that I did...
Although this must somehow be self-evident, I would appreciate it if you could walk me through the reasoning for it...
 
... I'm not sure that the equation of a circle needs further explanation.
 
PeroK said:
... I'm not sure that the equation of a circle needs further explanation.
I was referring to the interpretation of the inequality. I guess I simply misinterpreted the inequality and need to brush up on basic algebra !
 
JC2000 said:
I was referring to the interpretation of the inequality. I guess I simply misinterpreted the inequality and need to brush up on basic algebra !

Well the inequality ##1 \leq x^{2}+y^{2} \leq e## is really two inequalities: ##1 \leq x^2 + y^2## and ##x^2 + y^2 \leq e##. Perhaps more simply, you can say the radial coordinate ##r \in [1, \sqrt{e}]##.
 
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Read this (assuming you'll have more questions to post on this site).
 
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You can use inequalities in geogebra as well.
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JC2000 said:
Converting to a polar integral : Integrate ##\(f(x, y)=\) \(\left[\ln \left(x^{2}+y^{2}\right)\right] / \sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}\)##
Is that supposed to be ##f(x, y)=\left[\ln \left(x^{2}+y^{2}\right)\right] / \sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}## ?
 
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haruspex said:
Is that supposed to be ##f(x, y)=\left[\ln \left(x^{2}+y^{2}\right)\right] / \sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}## ?
Yes
 

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