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The discussion revolves around challenges related to integration by parts in calculus, specifically focusing on three integrals that a participant is struggling to solve. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques related to integration methods.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents three integration problems involving integration by parts, seeking assistance.
  • Another participant provides a detailed approach to solving the first integral, suggesting specific choices for u and dv.
  • A different participant offers a method for the third integral, proposing a substitution and further integration by parts.
  • Another participant hints at a strategy for the second integral, suggesting a substitution and integration technique involving trigonometric identities.
  • One participant suggests using the product-to-sum identities for the second integral, proposing a simplification before integration.
  • A participant shares a mnemonic (LIPET) for choosing u in integration by parts, which may help in solving the problems presented.
  • Another participant affirms the usefulness of the LIPET mnemonic, indicating its value in the context of integration by parts.

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Participants provide various methods and insights for solving the integrals, but there is no consensus on a single approach or solution for the problems presented. Multiple competing views and techniques remain in the discussion.

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Some methods proposed depend on specific choices for u and dv, and the effectiveness of these choices may vary based on the integrals involved. The discussion also highlights the potential for different strategies to yield different results.

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Students and individuals seeking assistance with integration techniques, particularly those struggling with integration by parts in calculus.

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Integration by parts HELP!

Hey, I am working on some calculus and I am having some trouble with the last few integration by parts problems. I got the first couple, and i grasp the concept of integration by parts but for some reason I just can't figure these 3. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1. The integral of (e^2x)sin3xdx

2. The integral of cos(3x+1)cos(5x+6)dx

3. The integral of x²ln²xdx

P.S> Feel free to ask if you can't read the questions, I tried to write them out the best I could.


Thanks in advance,

Brian
 
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1) u=e^2x ; dv=sin3x dx

du=2e^2x dx ; v=[itex]\frac{-1}{3}cos3x[/itex]

[tex]\int e^{2x}sin3x dx= \frac{-e^{2x}}{3}cos3x-\int \frac{-2e^{2x}}{3}cos3x dx[/tex]

repeat in the same fashion
 
3) [tex]\int x^{2}ln^{2}xdx[/tex] now let
[tex]u=ln^{2}x \ so \ du=\frac{2lnx}{x} \ , \ v=\int x^{2}dx=\frac{x^{3}}{3}[/tex] now:
[tex]\frac{x^{3}}{3}ln^{2}x-\int \frac{2lnx \ x^{3}}{3x}dx=\frac{x^{3}}{3}ln^{2}x-\frac{2}{3}\int x^{2}lnxdx[/tex] now repeat integraion by part also for

[tex]\int x^{2}lnx dx[/tex], and i think you will get the answer!
 
i am going to give u a hint on the 2) also
[tex]I=\int cos(3x+1)cos(5x+6)dx[/tex] now let[tex]u=cos(3x+1) \ => \ du=-3sin(3x+1) \ and \ \ v=\int cos(5x+6)dx=\frac{sin(5x+6}{5}[/tex] so now we have:

[tex]\frac{cos(3x+1)sin(5x+6)}{5}+\frac{3}{5}\int sin(3x+1)sin(5x+6)dx[/tex]

now for the integral [tex]\int sin(3x+1)sin(5x+6)dx[/tex] take this sub.

[tex]u=sin(3x+1) \ => du=3cos(3x+1) \ \, and \ \ v=\int sin(5x+6)dx = -\frac{cos(5x+6)}{5}[/tex] now u have:
[tex]-\frac{sin(3x+1)cos(5x+6)}{5} +\frac{3}{5} \int cos(3x+1)cos(5x+6)dx[/tex]
Now do you see anything interesting in here, anything that should grab your attention, try to go from here, because i think i have almost done it, you are almost there!@!
 
Thanks a lot guys I believe I have come to the right answers. Thanks a million!
 
For number 2.

How about using the product to sum rule cos(A)cos(B)=1/2[cos(A-B)+cos(A+B)]

then cos(3x+1)cos(5x+6)=1/2[cos(8x+7)+cos(2x+5)]

then integrate from here.
 
Not sure if your calculus teacher ever taught you this neat mnemonic, so I'll share it anyways: LIPET, which stands for Logarithmic, Inverse trig., Polynomial, Exponential, and Trigonometric. This is the order in which you should choose for something to set as "u" when integrating by parts. If you've already heard this, sorry I can't be of more help, just thought I'd add on something since you were talking about integration by parts.
 
LIPET is very useful and worth memorizing.
 

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