Newton's laws - studying for a test

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to Newton's laws, specifically focusing on the forces acting on a block being dragged along a horizontal surface. The original poster is preparing for a test and seeks clarification on the applied force required to maintain constant velocity, given the weight of the block and the coefficient of kinetic friction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply Newton's second law to determine the applied force but expresses confusion regarding the relationship between the forces involved. Some participants question the direction of the applied force and its representation in the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions to draw a free body diagram and analyze the forces in both vertical and horizontal directions. There is a focus on understanding the balance of forces rather than reaching a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a specific answer of 150 N but acknowledges a discrepancy in their calculations, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the problem setup or assumptions. The discussion includes references to a visual aid that may clarify the force directions.

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Hello guys. I have a test in a couple of days, so I am hoping to get some practice. I'll post any questions I have here, I would appreciate if you guys can help me clear up any confusions. 1. A 400-N block is dragged along a horizontal surface by an applied force F as shown. The coefficient of kinetic friction is uk = 0.4 and the block moves at constant velocity. The magnitude of F is:

attempted solution:

Since the block moves with constant velocity: [tex]\sum F = 0[/tex]
Since
[tex]\sum F = ma[/tex]
[tex]F_y - mg = ma = 0[/tex]
[tex]F_x - u_kmg = ma = 0[/tex]

The correct answer is 150 N, but obviously the components above are far greater because mg = 400 N. I must be missing something conceptually simple... Please help.
 
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What is the direction of the applied force "as shown"? What answer do you get?
 
PhanthomJay said:
What is the direction of the applied force "as shown"? What answer do you get?

oops. Sorry, here is a picture:

[PLAIN]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42149615/phq.jpg

Solving the simple equations I came up with above, I would get the components of the force as:

Fy = mg
Fx = Ukmg

The magnitude of F will then of course be far greater then 150 N.
 
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draw a free body diagram. in the vertical direction, there are three forces acting. normal reaction by the floor , (3/5)F , both of which are upwards and mg , which is downwards.
since there is no net force in the vertical direction,

[tex]N+\frac{3}{5}F=mg[/tex]

[tex]\therefore N=mg-\frac{3}{5}F[/tex]

so your force of friction which is opposing the applied force is

[tex]F_{fr}=\mu_k N=\mu_k (mg-\frac{3}{5}F)[/tex]
 

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