Newton's Third law of motion problem.

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an object moving on a table with a constant friction force opposing its motion. Given two scenarios with different applied forces and resulting accelerations, the original poster seeks to determine the force of friction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the mass of the object using the applied forces and accelerations provided. Some participants question the distinction between applied force and net force, suggesting that the original poster needs to clarify how to find the net force acting on the object.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the correct interpretation of forces involved. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to set up equations based on the two scenarios to solve for the unknowns.

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The original poster is working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between applied forces, net forces, and friction in the context of Newton's laws.

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Homework Statement


An object is free to move on a table, ex-
cept that there is a constant friction force f
that opposes the motion of the object when
it moves. If a force of 10 N pulls the object
across the table, the acceleration is 2 m/s2. If
a force of 20 N pulls the object across the ta-
ble, the acceleration is 6 m/s2. What is the
force of friction f?

a) 3.33 N
b) 1 N
c) 5 N
d) 10 N
e) none of these

Homework Equations



F= ma
and
F= -F'

and
F= μS where μ= coefficient of static friction

The Attempt at a Solution



i first find the mass in both case

F= 10 N and a= 2m/s/s
so
m= F/a = 10/2
m= 5kg

and again

F= 20N and a= 6m/s/s

so
m= F/a = 20/6
m= 3.33kg

what i do next..
or
either i must go to

F= μ S

please help me to solve it.. how i go further?
 
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abrowaqas said:
F= 10 N and a= 2m/s/s
so
m= F/a = 10/2
m= 5kg
10 N is the applied force, not the net force. To use Newton's 2nd law you need the net force.
 
then Doc Al

how will i find the net force..
will it be

Fnet = 20+10 = 30N ...
what i do next?
 
abrowaqas said:
how will i find the net force..
will it be

Fnet = 20+10 = 30N ...
No. In the first case, what two forces act? One is the applied force of 10 N. What's the other force?

You'll end up with an equation with 2 unknowns.

Then you'll get a second equation, using the second case (with the applied force of 20 N).

You'll solve those two equations for the two unknowns.
 

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