Normal/Tangential magnetic flux density problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic flux density and angle for a system involving a magnetic slab and a conducting film with given parameters. The initial calculations led to an angle of 90 degrees for θ2, which contradicted the textbook answer of 86.2 degrees and a magnitude of B2 at 0.15 T. Errors identified included the incorrect assumption of permeability μ1 equaling μ0 and miscalculating the permeability in region 2. The correct approach involves using the appropriate permeability values and adjusting the sign of the current density in the equations. Ultimately, the resolution highlights the importance of accurately applying magnetic properties in calculations.
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Homework Statement


The picture attached to this question shows a magnetic slab with μr = 50. A thin conducting film (with μr = 1) lies on top of the slab and carries a surface current of 1.0[A/mm] directed out of the page. If magnitude of B1 = 0.01 [T] and θ1 = 10o, find magnitude of B2 and θ2.

I apologize in advance for my bad recreation of the image in the text!

Homework Equations



1.) B1n = B2n
2.) (1/μ1)B1t - (1/μ2)B2t = Js

The Attempt at a Solution



So, for starters, I am assuming μ1 = μo = (4*pi)e-7. Please let me know if I cannot make this assumption, but I believe I can. Because angles are involved that are not perfectly 90o, I have to include sines and cosines in the equations above. Using formula #1 --> (0.01)*cos(10o) = B2cos(θ2) = 0.009848. Using formula #2 to find θ2, I can plug in values to have:
(1/μo)0.01*sin(10o) - (795774.72)B2sin(θ2) = 1000[A/m]

Solving for θ2, I find that the angle is 90o. However, this is not the answer in the back of the book. The answer for θ2 in the back of the text is 86.2o and a magnitude of B2 to be 0.15[T]. I was also not receiving this value for B2. I have a feeling that my problem is that I cannot assume that μ1 = μo. Please help me! Thanks for all help in advance!
 
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satchmo05 said:
Please help me! Thanks for all help in advance!

I believe that you have everything essentially correct with one small, but important, exception.

You need to reverse the sign of the current density in your equation. If you look at the orientation, you have set up your equations as if the current was flowing into the page, rather than out of the page.
 
uR=50 so u2 is not equal to u1.
 
Actually, I see one more error. I think you multiplied \mu_0 by 50 squared (in region 2) rather than by just \mu_r=50 as specified.
 
elect_eng said:
I believe that you have everything essentially correct with one small, but important, exception.

You need to reverse the sign of the current density in your equation. If you look at the orientation, you have set up your equations as if the current was flowing into the page, rather than out of the page.

Elect_eng - this still results in an angle of 90o.

Antiphon said:
uR=50 so u2 is not equal to u1.

Antiphon - when did I mention this? Can I assume that u1 = uo? That was one of my original questions.

elect_eng said:
Actually, I see one more error. I think you multiplied \mu_0 by 50 squared (in region 2) rather than by just \mu_r=50 as specified.

Elect_eng - I carefully went back over my implementation and I still receive 90o
 
Here is my implementation:

1.) B1n = B2n
2.) (1/μ1)B1t - (1/μ2)B2t = Js
B1cosθ1 = B2cosθ2 = 0.01cos(10o) = 0.009848
(1/μo)B1sinθ1 - (1/μr)B2sinθ2 = -Js
(1/μo)B1sinθ1 + Js = (1/μr)B2sinθ2
ro)B1sinθ1 + μrJs = B2sinθ2
119092.41 = B2sinθ2

[B2sinθ2 / B2cosθ2] = (119092.41/0.009848)
tanθ2 = 12,093,056
θ2 = tan-1(12,093,056)
θ2 = 90o
 
satchmo05 said:
Here is my implementation:

1.) B1n = B2n
2.) (1/μ1)B1t - (1/μ2)B2t = Js
B1cosθ1 = B2cosθ2 = 0.01cos(10o) = 0.009848
(1/μo)B1sinθ1 - (1/μr)B2sinθ2 = -Js
(1/μo)B1sinθ1 + Js = (1/μr)B2sinθ2
ro)B1sinθ1 + μrJs = B2sinθ2
119092.41 = B2sinθ2

[B2sinθ2 / B2cosθ2] = (119092.41/0.009848)
tanθ2 = 12,093,056
θ2 = tan-1(12,093,056)
θ2 = 90o
The permeability in region 2 is \mu_0 \mu_r not \mu_r.
 
That was the problem. Thanks for your help and persistence Elect_Eng!
 
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