Nuclear Physics - Difference between electron capture and beta plus decay

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The discussion revolves around the differences between electron capture and beta plus decay in nuclear physics, particularly focusing on the conditions under which each process occurs and how to predict the likelihood of one over the other. It includes theoretical considerations and practical implications for understanding decay processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Emily questions whether a nucleus with a decreasing proton number must be undergoing either electron capture or beta plus decay.
  • Emily proposes that beta plus emission can only occur if the mass of the original atom is at least 2 electron masses larger than the final atom, raising questions about the conditions for decay modes.
  • Participants discuss specific decay modes of Cu-64, noting that it decays to Zn-64 and Ni-64 through both beta minus decay and positron/electron capture.
  • Emily inquires about predicting the likelihood of beta plus decay versus electron capture for isotopes like Ce-137, questioning if mass differences can provide insights.
  • One participant mentions that Cu-64's decay modes indicate a branching fraction of about 45% for electron capture, suggesting a unique decay signature through neutrino energy spectrum.
  • Another participant suggests that for introductory physics, it may be acceptable to refer to both decay processes without needing to specify which is more likely.
  • There is a mention that computing actual branching fractions is complex and may not be expected knowledge for first-year university students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about how to predict which decay mode is more likely in certain cases, indicating that no consensus exists on a definitive method for making such predictions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the understanding of branching fractions and the conditions under which different decay modes occur, as well as the complexity of measuring these experimentally.

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This discussion may be useful for students studying nuclear physics, particularly those interested in decay processes and their implications in theoretical and experimental contexts.

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So my question has a few parts to it.
First, if an atom is decaying and the proton (Z) number is decreasing in the decay process, am I correct in assuming that the nucleus is either decaying by electron capture of beta plus emission?
Secondly, I understand that beta plus emission can only occur is the mass of the original atom is at least 2 electron masses larger than the final atom. Therefore if the final mass is under 2 electron masses, the atom decays by electron capture. However, if the final mass is larger than 2 electron masses, how do you know if it is decaying by beta plus emission or electron capture?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Emily.
 
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Hi Emily-
Cu64 is odd-odd, and decays to both Zn64 (even-even) by beta-minus decay, and by positron AND electron capture to Ni64 (even-even). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper-64. I think V50 is similar.
 
Thanks, but is there any way of predicting which is more likely? For example Ce-137 (Z=58) decays by positron decay (according to a search engine). How would you know it is beta plus not electron capture? Or is there no way of working it out (via masses etc)?
 
Cu64 decay modes show that electron capture is about 45%, meaning that only about 55% of decays emit a typical charged beta ± decay lepton with a contiunuous energy spectrum. The best signature would be to look at the unique decay neutrino energy spectrum in electron capture (LOL).
 
So I guess for first year university physics I'm ok just to write 'beta plus and/or electron capture' and hope for the best in the exam next week! Thanks very much for your help.
 
Yes, computing actual branching fractions, or even estimating them, is way beyond what you might be expected to do or know how to do. You might need to know how to measure these experimentally, though.
 

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