Archived Orbital Quantum Numbers And Total Electron Energy

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total energy of an electron in a hydrogen atom with an orbital quantum number of l = 4. Initially, there was confusion about relating angular momentum to energy using quantum mechanics, but it was clarified that the energy can be derived using the Bohr model. The relevant formula for energy is E_n = -Ry/n^2, where Ry is approximately 13.6 eV. Since l must be less than n, the smallest possible value for n when l = 4 is 5, leading to a total energy of E_5 = -13.6 eV/25 = -0.544 eV. The thread concludes that the energy of the electron is independent of the angular momentum quantum number l.
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Homework Statement



The orbital quantum number for the electron in the hydrogen atom is l = 4. What
is the smallest possible value (in eV) for the total energy of this electron? (Use the
quantum mechanical model of the hydrogen atom.)

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I know that the angular momentum of the electron is given by;

L = \sqrt{l(l + 1)}\frac{h}{2 \pi}

L = \sqrt{20} \frac{h}{2 \pi}

L = 4.64x10-33 Kgm2s-1

My textbook doesn't really discuss the QM picture of the atom, so I don't know how to relate this to the energy of the electron.

I know how to do it for the Bohr model, but clearly that's no good.

I appreciate any help you can give,

thanks!

<EDIT>

Oops.

" In fact, calculating the energy from the quantum mechanical wave function gives the expression Bohr derived for the energy:"

This thread can be ignored/deleted. sorry.
 
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The energy of the electron is given by the Bohr equation
$$
E_n = - \frac{\mathrm{Ry}}{n^2}
$$
where ##\mathrm{Ry} \approx 13.6\ \mathrm{eV}## is the Rydberg constant (expressed in units of energy).

This energy is independent of the angular momentum quantum number ##l##. However, there is the constraint that ##l < n##. Therefore, if ##l = 4##, the lowest value of ##n## is 5, and hence the lowest energy is
$$
E_5 = - \frac{13.6\ \mathrm{eV}}{5^2} = 0.544\ \mathrm{eV}
$$
 
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