Originary Curves: Mathematical & Physical Properties

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The discussion centers around the concept of originary curves, which are defined by specific properties related to their mathematical and physical characteristics. Participants explore the implications of these curves in relation to natural equations and Cartesian equations, as well as their occurrence in various physical experiments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines originary curves as those for which the Frenet trihedron coincides with the Cartesian trihedron at the origin, highlighting their mathematical and physical properties.
  • The mathematical property suggests that knowing the natural equation of an originary curve allows for the unambiguous determination of its Cartesian equation, as per the fundamental theorem of space curves.
  • The physical property is illustrated through examples of experiments involving particle streams and light interference, suggesting that originary curves are prevalent in various physical phenomena.
  • Another participant questions whether there is a clear question being posed regarding the benefits of the notion of originary curves.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the implications and benefits of the concept, with one noting that the idea originated from personal contemplation rather than established literature.
  • A later reply indicates that the discussion may involve original research, which is not permitted on the forum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the benefits or implications of the notion of originary curves. There is uncertainty regarding the clarity of the question being posed and the appropriateness of the discussion within the forum's guidelines.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the concept of originary curves, and there is a lack of established references or literature to support the claims made about their properties and implications.

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We call originary curve the curve for that at baseline the Frenet trihedron TNB coincides with the cartesian trihedron IJK. Therefore, the originary curve is the curve that passes through the origin of the cartesian landmark and for that at the origin the tangent vector to the curve coincides with the unit vector of axis OX , the normal vector coincides with the unit vector of axis OY, and the binormal vector coincides with the unit vector of axis OZ.

Originary curves have two remarkable properties: a mathematical property and a physical property .

-1) . The mathematical property is given by the fact that for the originary curve is sufficient to know its natural equation to be able to determine unambiguously the cartesian equation. This follows from the fundamental theorem of space curves, which says that two curves that have the same natural equation differ only by a translation and a rotation. Because two originary curves pass through the origin and have the same orientation, it follows that two originary curves that have the same natural equation will be identical, so they have the same cartesian equation .

-2) . The physical property is given by the fact that there are lots of experiments where the originary curves occur. For example, in the experiments in which a stream of particles enters into a room or get out from such room (piston, accelerator, detector, cloud chamber). Or interference experiments performed with light or with microparticles. Also, even the current Big Bang can be considered as a source of originary curves. So there are so many experiments in which originary curves occur, that they should be fully exploited as becometh.
 
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Is there a question here?
 
I believe so, but that it is implicit. It is, in fact, the following: it may be benefic this notion?
 
Abel Cavaşi said:
I believe so, but that it is implicit. It is, in fact, the following: it may be benefic this notion?

Well, where did you first read about this notion? Didn't they provide some clue about how it's beneficial?
 
It is a notion about I think by myself, being troubled about the link between natural equation and cartesian equation. I believe that the study of natural equation lead to simplification of the laws of nature.
 
Well, if it's something you found yourself, then that's original research. And that is forbidden on PF. Thread locked.
 

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