Partice Kinetics Question - HELP

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The discussion revolves around a particle kinetics problem involving a block moving down a slope, with a focus on calculating the acceleration of the block considering the kinetic coefficient of friction. Participants are trying to understand the forces acting on the block, particularly the normal reaction and the effects of a pulley system.

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate the normal force and question how to incorporate the angle of the pulley into their calculations. There is also confusion regarding the direction of forces, particularly the role of a 47N force and its components along the slope.

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Some participants have provided insights into using Newton's second law for the normal direction and have suggested considering the slope's direction for force components. However, there is still uncertainty regarding the angles involved and the setup of the problem, with no clear consensus reached on these points.

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Participants are discussing the angle between the ropes and the slope, which remains unclear. There are also indications of varying levels of understanding, with some participants expressing a need for more detailed guidance.

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Homework Statement


As shown in the attachment.
At the instant shown the block is moving down the slope. What is the acceleration of the block up the slope if the kinetic coefficient of friction is 0.4?


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm having problems with two things here, the calculation of the normal reaction on the block as i don't know what to do about the angle of the line on the pulley and its resultant force...
This leads to my second problem when summing the total force in the x-direction i still don't know what to do with the 47N force...

Generally i need help!
 

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Welcome to PF!

Hi Cam169677! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(is 31º the angle between the upper rope and the slope, and is the lower rope suppposed to be parallel to the slope? :confused:)
Cam169677 said:
I'm having problems with two things here, the calculation of the normal reaction on the block as i don't know what to do about the angle of the line on the pulley and its resultant force...

There's no acceleration in the normal direction, so just use good ol' Newton's second law in that direction … ∑F = 0. :wink:
This leads to my second problem when summing the total force in the x-direction i still don't know what to do with the 47N force...

what's the x-direction?

the obvious direction to use is the direction of the slope …

then the component of the 47N in that direction is 47(cos31º)N
 
I'm also having trouble with this.

"is 31º the angle between the upper rope and the slope, and is the lower rope suppposed to be parallel to the slope?"

That's what i want to find out as well hmm
 
Welcome to PF!

Hi PcKSnipE! Welcome to PF! :smile:
PcKSnipE said:
"is 31º the angle between the upper rope and the slope, and is the lower rope suppposed to be parallel to the slope?"

That's what i want to find out as well hmm

I assume it is.
 
Alright i worked it out, the tricky bit has to do with the pulley.

The total force of the pullet in the X plane is T + TcosA
The force in the normal direction (which affects friction) is mgcosA - TsinA

Gl
 
i still don't get wat to do here guys i have a similar question but using the following example can u tell me step by step wat to do and a answer as well
Thanx much appreciated
 
welcome to pf!

hi jalwa! welcome to pf! :wink:

better start a new thread …

make sure to show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help! :smile:
 

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