How Do Phase Speed and Maximum Particle Speed Compare in a Transverse Wave?

In summary, a transverse wave is traveling through a wire in the positive direction of the x-axes. The distance of the wire particles in the motion of the wave can be described as y(x,t)=53*10^-6sin(188t-3.14x). To find the ratio of the phase wave speed and maximal speed of the wire particles in the motion of the wave, we need to understand the movement of the wire particles. The phase velocity is the velocity of a point of constant phase, which can be calculated as v(x)=188/3.14. This point changes with time at a constant rate, which is the phase velocity.
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transverse wave is traveling through a wire in a positive direction of the x-axes. Distance od the wire particles in the motion of the wave can be described as ##y(x,t)=53*10^{-6}sin(188t-3.14x)## Find the ratio of the phase wave speed and maximal speed of the wire particles in the motion of the wave.

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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
The phase speed is suppose to be ##w/k## right? So that makes it around 60. But what is the second term? How do i get that?
 
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The key here is to understand what the wire particles are doing.

We know it's a transverse wave.
Transverse waves are the ones where the individual vibrations move at 90 degree angles to the direction the overall wave moves in. The wire moves up and down, but the ripples in the wire travel along its length (90 degrees from the vertical direction).

What does that mean for the individual wire particles?

For any wire particle, we have the height [itex]y[/itex], the distance along the horizontal direction [itex]x[/itex], and the time [itex]t[/itex]
How would we figure out the velocity of an individual wire particle from those variables?
 
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jfizzix said:
The key here is to understand what the wire particles are doing.

We know it's a transverse wave.
Transverse waves are the ones where the individual vibrations move at 90 degree angles to the direction the overall wave moves in. The wire moves up and down, but the ripples in the wire travel along its length (90 degrees from the vertical direction).

What does that mean for the individual wire particles?

For any wire particle, we have the height [itex]y[/itex], the distance along the horizontal direction [itex]x[/itex], and the time [itex]t[/itex]
How would we figure out the velocity of an individual wire particle from those variables?
Well since we have the position, isn't the velocity just the derivative of that position? And is my phase velocity correct?
 
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Since this is a homework forum, I don't think I can just tell you what the answer is, since you should be able to prove it to yourself.

As far as phase velocity goes, it's more than just a formula. It's the velocity of a point of constant phase. The phase of the wave is the number you take the sine of in a sine wave. Here, it's an expression in terms of [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]t[/itex].
The point [itex]x[/itex] where [itex]sin(188t -3.14x)=0[/itex] is a point that changes with changing time since as [itex]t[/itex] increases, [itex]x[/itex] must increase as well to keep [itex]188t -3.14x[/itex] a constant value.
The velocity of this point of constant phase is by definition the phase velocity.
 
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jfizzix said:
Since this is a homework forum, I don't think I can just tell you what the answer is, since you should be able to prove it to yourself.

As far as phase velocity goes, it's more than just a formula. It's the velocity of a point of constant phase. The phase of the wave is the number you take the sine of in a sine wave. Here, it's an expression in terms of [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]t[/itex].
The point [itex]x[/itex] where [itex]sin(188t -3.14x)=0[/itex] is a point that changes with changing time since as [itex]t[/itex] increases, [itex]x[/itex] must increase as well to keep [itex]188t -3.14x[/itex] a constant value.
The velocity of this point of constant phase is by definition the phase velocity.
So the velocity of the constant phase point is then ##v(x)=188/3.14## ?
 
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If we look at the point [itex]\tilde{x}[/itex] of constant phase [itex]188t -3.14\tilde{x}=0[/itex]
then we solve for [itex]\tilde{x}[/itex] , and find:
[itex]\tilde{x}=\frac{188}{3.14}t[/itex]

This point [itex]\tilde{x}[/itex] changes with time at a constant rate, which is the phase velocity.
 

1. What is the definition of phase speed of a wave?

The phase speed of a wave is the speed at which a specific point on a wave pattern moves in space as the wave propagates. It is typically measured in meters per second.

2. How is phase speed different from group speed?

The phase speed and group speed of a wave are related but different concepts. While phase speed refers to the speed of a specific point on a wave, the group speed refers to the speed at which the overall shape or pattern of the wave moves. In some cases, these speeds may be equal, but in other cases, they may be different.

3. What factors affect the phase speed of a wave?

The phase speed of a wave can be affected by several factors, including the medium through which the wave is propagating, the frequency and wavelength of the wave, and any external forces or boundaries that may be present.

4. How is the phase speed of a wave calculated?

The phase speed of a wave can be calculated by dividing the frequency of the wave by its wavelength. This can also be written as the product of the frequency and the wavelength, since they are inversely proportional. The resulting value is the phase speed in the given medium.

5. Why is the phase speed of a wave important in science?

The phase speed of a wave is important in science because it helps us understand the behavior and properties of different types of waves. It can also be used to predict how waves will interact with different media and how they may be affected by external factors. Additionally, the phase speed is a fundamental concept in many areas of physics, including optics, acoustics, and electromagnetism.

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