Positive charge "Q" is distributed uniformly around a semicircle

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The problem involves a positive charge Q distributed uniformly around a semicircle of radius a, with the goal of determining the electric field vector at the center of curvature P.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to define the charge element dQ and its relation to the charge density, questioning the meaning of the variable ρ. Some participants discuss the interchangeability of ρ and λ in this context. Others explore the integration of the electric field contributions from the semicircle and the impact of symmetry on the resultant vector.

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Participants are actively discussing the setup and calculations related to the electric field. Some have provided guidance on the vector nature of the electric field and the importance of considering directionality. There is an ongoing exploration of the coordinate system in relation to the semicircle.

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There are questions regarding the definitions of charge density and the variable a, as well as the relationship between the coordinate axes and the semicircle's geometry. Participants are also addressing discrepancies in expected results and clarifying the integration process.

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Homework Statement



Positive charge Q is distributed uniformly around a semicircle of radius a. Detirmine ##\vec{E}## around at the center of curvature P.

Homework Equations



$$\vec{E}=K\frac{Q}{r^2}\hat{r}$$

The Attempt at a Solution



Taking a small slide of length dl from the semicircle, the field ##d\vec{E}## due to the charge ##dQ## is ##d\vec{E}=K\frac{dQ}{a^2}\hat{r}##.

Where I'm getting confused is the definition of dQ
$$dQ=\rho*a*d\theta$$

What is ##\rho## meant to represent?
 
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I still don't *completely* understand what was meant by ##\rho##, but I see now that ##\lambda## is used a lot in its place. I did the following procedure:

The ##\vec{E}## due to an infinitesimal portion of the semicircle, ##dl=ad\theta## with charge ##dQ## can be shown as:
##d\vec{E}=K\frac{dQ}{a^2}\hat{r}## where ##dQ=\lambda dl=\lambda ad\theta##

The semicircle extends from ##0→\pi## radians, so we can integrate ##d\vec{E}## as

\vec E = \int_0^\pi {K\frac{{\lambda a}}{{{a^2}}}d\theta } = \frac{{K\lambda }}{a}\int_0^\pi {d\theta = } \frac{{K\lambda }}{a}[\theta ]_0^\pi = \frac{{K\pi \lambda }}{a}

Because ##\lambda=\frac{Q}{\theta a}## and in this case ##\theta = \pi## then ##\lambda=\frac{Q}{\pi a}## and:

$$\vec{E}=\frac{KQ}{a^2}$$

Is this procedure sensible?
 
Do not forget that the electric field is a vector, and the contributions of the line elements are of different directions. One of the components cancel because of symmetry...

ehild
 
##\rho## is rho and its normally a density of some kind. Here its a charge density and uniform or constant. It varies with theta as youve demonstrated. Lambda and rho are basically the same thing, just variables and can sometimes be used differently in different contexts.
 
Also, where did ##a## come from?
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
Also, where did ##a## come from?

##a=r##

So, I had redone the procedure because my answer didn't match other expected answer. Please let me know if this corrected procedure makes sense:

The ##\vec{E}## due to an infintesmal portion of the semicircle, ##dl=ad\theta## with charge ##dQ## is:
##d\vec{E}=K\frac{dQ}{a^2}\hat{a}## where ##dQ=\lambda dl=\lambda ad\theta##

Its components are, therefore,
In X:
$$d\vec{E}_x = d\vec{E}cos\theta d\theta = K\frac{dQ}{i^2}$$
$$\because dQ=\lambda ad\theta$$
$$d\vec{E}_x = \frac{K\lambda}{a}cos\theta d\theta$$
Integrating, we find that:
{\vec E_x} = \frac{{K\lambda }}{a}\int_0^\pi {\cos \theta d\theta } = \frac{{K\lambda }}{a}[\sin \theta ]_0^\pi = 0\hat{i}

In Y:
d{\vec E_y} = \frac{{K\lambda }}{a}\sin \theta d\theta
Integrating, we find that
{\vec E_y} = \frac{{K\lambda }}{a}\int_0^\pi {\sin \theta d\theta } = \frac{{K\lambda }}{a}[ - \cos \theta ]_0^\pi = \frac{{K\lambda }}{a}[ - 1 - 1] = \frac{{ - 2K\lambda }}{a}
##\because \lambda=\frac{Q}{\pi a}##
$$\vec{E}_y=\frac{-2KQ}{\pi a^2}$$

$$\therefore \vec{E}_{total}=\vec{E}_x\hat{i} + \vec{E}_y\hat{j} = \frac{-2KQ}{\pi a^2}\hat{j}$$
 
It might be correct, but how are the coordinate axes related to the axis of the semicircle?

ehild
 
The image matches this diagram:

YF-21-096.jpg
 
It is correct. Nice work and nice figure!

ehild
 

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