Possible to take antiderivative of (sin(x)/e^x)dx?

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The discussion revolves around finding the antiderivative of the function sin(x)/e^x. The original poster expresses difficulty in obtaining the integral using integration by parts and seeks alternative methods.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants suggest various methods, including repeated integration by parts and rewriting sin(x) in terms of complex exponentials. There are discussions about the choice of u and dv in integration by parts and the implications of these choices on the problem's complexity.

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Several participants have offered different approaches to tackle the integral, indicating a productive exchange of ideas. However, there is no explicit consensus on a single method or solution at this point.

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The original poster references an online integral calculator, suggesting a potential discrepancy between calculated results and manual methods. There is also an implication of imposed homework rules regarding the use of calculators or external resources.

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Homework Statement



There is an integral, according to an online integral calculator, but I cannot obtain it by integration by parts. Is there a way to obtain it without it being given to you?

The derivative in question is [sin(x)/e^x]dx

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Apply integration by parts until you arrive at an integral that looks like the one you started with.

Add the integral to both sides to "cancel" it on one side. Divide by 2 (or whatever other number is now multiplying your integral on the left side of your equation).

Make sure to carefully pick your u and dv. If you pick the right dv, it'll make the problem a lot easier to do. (time wise, I don't think the algebra changes much)
 
Or you could rewrite [tex]sinx=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2i}[/tex]. Then you would just have to integrate exponentials...
 
I get [tex]\frac{cosx+sinx}{-2e^x}[/tex] for zero constant of integration.
 
You could also write sin(x) as Im{e^(ix)}.

EDIT: beaten by chaoseverlasting
 
In other words, you want
[tex]\int e^{-x}sin(x)dx[/tex]

I see nothing difficult about that. You can do it by parts either by letting u= e-x and dv= sin(x)dx or by letting u= sin(x) and dv= e-xdx.

You will need to integrate twice and after the second integration by parts you will get back to
[tex]\int e^{-x}sin(x)dx[/itex]<br /> again so you will have an equation to solve for that integral.[/tex]
 

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