Potential of a conservative force

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the given force vector can be associated with a potential function. To establish this, participants suggest calculating the curl of the force; if it is zero, the force is conservative and a potential exists. The integration of the force components is highlighted as a challenge, particularly with the x-component, where y is treated as a constant during integration. Participants encourage continuing with the integration process while checking for consistency in the resulting potential expressions. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the integration method and the conditions for a force to be conservative.
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Homework Statement



Hello everybody,

i have the following problem:

The following force vector is given:

\vec{F}(x, y, z) = (2x + 3y)*\vec{e}_x + (z*cos(y*z))*\vec{e}_y + (y*cos(y*z))*\vec{e}_z

Is it possible to find a potential for this given force? If it is possible, find it!

I somehow cannot figure out a solution, even though i know the equation for potential (at least i think that this is the relevant one in the setion below)

Homework Equations



V(x, y, z) = \int_{}{} \vec{F}(x,y,z)d\vec{s}


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to integrate the x-, y- and z-components of the given force vector respectively, but for some reason i can't figure out how to properly integrate the components.
I hope someone here an help me. Best regards and thank you in advance.
 
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Calculate the rotational of the force. If it vanishes than there is a potential otherwise no potential exists. If it does than chose some point in space as a reference point (any point) and integrate the force along some path (any path) from the reference point to the point with coordinates (x,y,z). That's the potential at (x,y,z).
 
TanGeriN said:
I tried to integrate the x-, y- and z-components of the given force vector respectively, but for some reason i can't figure out how to properly integrate the components.
Can you show where you are stuck? Checking to see if the curl of the force vanishes is one way to determine whether it is conservative. However, you can continue with your integrations and see if you notice any contradictions in the expressions you have for V collectively.
 
Unfortunately i get stuck already when trying to integrate the very first component. How do you integrate F_x = \int (2x+3y) dx ?
 
TanGeriN said:
Unfortunately i get stuck already when trying to integrate the very first component. How do you integrate F_x = \int (2x+3y) dx ?
When integrating in the ##x## direction, ##y## is a constant.
 
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