Power of Elevator Motor at Cruise Speed

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The discussion focuses on calculating the average power of a 750 kg elevator motor during its acceleration to a cruising speed of 1.75 m/s. The initial attempts to calculate average power using incorrect force values led to confusion, with the user struggling to understand the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration. The correct approach involves using the motor force, which accounts for both the weight of the elevator and the net force required for acceleration. For part (b), the user correctly identifies that at cruising speed, the motor power should equal the weight of the elevator multiplied by its velocity, but faces issues with online homework validation. Clarification on the correct calculations and understanding of forces is needed for accurate results.
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First of all, I know I've posted this already, but I didn't really understand the reply. I tried going back to the thread, but I can't find it anymore.

Homework Statement


A 750 kg elevator starts from rest. It moves upward for 3.00 s with constant acceleration until it reaches its cruising speed, 1.75 m/s.
(a) What is the average power of the elevator motor during this period?
(b) How does this power compare with the motor power when the elevator moves at its cruising speed?

Homework Equations


F=ma
P=FV

The Attempt at a Solution



(a), since it was asking for the "average" power, so I thought I'd take the average velocity for my equation
so Force = ma = 750*(1.75/3)
and P= 750*(1.75/3)*(1.75/2) = 382.81
However, that is the wrong answer
so I tried it again.. may be I used the wrong numbers? This time I did the following:
Force = ma = 750*(9.8)
and P= 750*(9.8)*(1.75/2) = 6431.25
However, this is still wrong
what am I missing?

(b) I think I am stuck on this part because I don't fully understand part a... but I was actually thinking that may be the power of done by the elevator at cruising speed would just be
P=Fv=mgv = 750*9.8*1.75 = 12862.5
this is definitely wrong because I typed it into my online hw, and it told me its wrong
 
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ok wait...The resultant force acting on the elevator is upwards...the only forces acting to provide this are the upward force of the elevator,F_E[/tex] and the downward force of the elevator(it's weight,W). So that the resultant force,F_R moves upward for 3.00 s with constant acceleration until it reaches its cruising speed, 1.75ms^{-1}
 
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1.75/2 because it started at rest where Vi=0, and vf=1.75
so the average would be 1.75/2
 
mkwok said:
First of all, I know I've posted this already, but I didn't really understand the reply. I tried going back to the thread, but I can't find it anymore.

Homework Statement


A 750 kg elevator starts from rest. It moves upward for 3.00 s with constant acceleration until it reaches its cruising speed, 1.75 m/s.
(a) What is the average power of the elevator motor during this period?
(b) How does this power compare with the motor power when the elevator moves at its cruising speed?

Homework Equations


F=ma
P=FV

The Attempt at a Solution



(a), since it was asking for the "average" power, so I thought I'd take the average velocity for my equation
so Force = ma = 750*(1.75/3)
and P= 750*(1.75/3)*(1.75/2) = 382.81
However, that is the wrong answer
so I tried it again.. may be I used the wrong numbers? This time I did the following:
Force = ma = 750*(9.8)
and P= 750*(9.8)*(1.75/2) = 6431.25
However, this is still wrong
what am I missing?

(b) I think I am stuck on this part because I don't fully understand part a... but I was actually thinking that may be the power of done by the elevator at cruising speed would just be
P=Fv=mgv = 750*9.8*1.75 = 12862.5
this is definitely wrong because I typed it into my online hw, and it told me its wrong
It's unfortunate that you couldn't find your first post buried on page 3 a moment ago, because you practically had the correct answer by correctly calculating the work done by the motor, then you forgot to divide the work by the time (3 seconds) to get the average power delivered by the motor. Anyway, now you have chosen wisely to determine the average power using the motor force times the average velocity, however, you are now incorrectly using the net force acting on the elevator, when instead, you should be using the force provided by the motor, F_m, where F_{net} = F_m - mg. For part b, your answer appears correct, because at cruise speed, the motor force must equal the weight (per Newton 1), so I don't know why the computer doesn't like your answer.
 
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