Pressure at the center of a planet

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The discussion centers on calculating the pressure at the center of a planet using hydrostatic equilibrium and assuming constant density. The derived formula for pressure as a function of radius is P(r) = (2πGρ²R²/3)(1 - r²/R²), indicating that pressure at the center depends on the planet's density and radius. However, it is noted that the assumption of constant density is unrealistic, as planets exhibit varying densities due to differentiation and compressibility. The participant acknowledges this limitation while confirming the correctness of their derivation for the given homework problem. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the complexities of planetary structure in such calculations.
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Homework Statement



Find the pressure at the center of a planet

Homework Equations



dP/dr = -ρg (Hydrostatic Equilibrium)

g = GM/r2 (acceleration due to gravity)

The Attempt at a Solution



dP/dr = -ρg

Assume that density is constant.

subsitute GM/r2 for g in the pressure gradient formula

dP/dr = -ρGM/r2


Now we need Mass as a function of radius. Divide the planet up into differential concentric rings

then the differential mass element is related to the surface area.

dM = 4πr2ρdr or dM/dr = 4πr2ρ (conservation of mass)

Then integrating both sides of the the above equation gives.

∫dM = ∫4πr2ρdr

M(r) = ∫4πr2ρdr With limits of integration from 0 to r

and since density is constant

M(r) = 4/3πr3ρ

so the pressure gradient with a constant density gives

dP/dr = (-ρg/r2)(4/3πr3ρ)

Solving the differential equation for P gives

∫dP = ∫-(4πGρ2rdr)/3

with limits of integration from r1 to r2 (radius) and P1 to P2 (pressure)

gives:

P2-P1 = (-4Gπρ2/3)(r22-r12/2)

Solving for P1 gives



P1 = P2+(-2Gπρ2/3)(r22-r12/2)

Setting the boundry condition as

r2 = R1 and P2=0

gives the final equation for Pressure as a function of radius inside the planet with density ρ, planetary radius R and varying radius r as

P(r) = (2πGρ2R2/3)(1-r2/R2)

Is this correct?

Does this mean that inserting 0 for r will give you (1-0) or just 1 and then the pressure at the center of the planet is dependent on just the density of the planet and the radius of the planet?
 
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Psycopathak said:
P(r) = (2πGρ2R2/3)(1-r2/R2)

Is this correct?
Very good.

Does this mean that inserting 0 for r will give you (1-0) or just 1 and then the pressure at the center of the planet is dependent on just the density of the planet and the radius of the planet?
Also correct, in terms of the problem at hand. However, you had to make a very big and rather invalid assumption to get to this simple result:
Assume that density is constant.
A planet does not have a constant density. Far from it! The Earth's inner core is more than 4 times as dense as the Earth's crust. Two things are going on here: planetary differentiation (the crust, mantle, inner core, and outer core are composed of different materials) and compressibility (solids aren't quite as solid as you think; they become smaller under pressure).
 
D H said:
Very good.


Also correct, in terms of the problem at hand. However, you had to make a very big and rather invalid assumption to get to this simple result:

A planet does not have a constant density. Far from it! The Earth's inner core is more than 4 times as dense as the Earth's crust. Two things are going on here: planetary differentiation (the crust, mantle, inner core, and outer core are composed of different materials) and compressibility (solids aren't quite as solid as you think; they become smaller under pressure).

Thank you sir!

Yes, I am aware that it is a highly unrealistic assumption, but on my homework problem It gives me the question to simply find the pressure at the center of Saturn and Uranus. It gives no density function to integrate.

The more difficult problems give you density functions to integrate.

I just wanted to see if I had carried out the derivation correctly.
 
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